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#1 Cali

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:03 PM

The utility company Pacific Gas and Electric is shutting off the electricity in the Bay Area (Northern California), north past Napa, east past Sacramento, south including parts of San Jose and down to Santa Cruz.  (Map here).  Parts could be shut down for days. All of this is being done in the name of fire prevention. This should be both a unique and interesting experience as I will be in the backyard with every piece of glass I own in anticipation of somewhat darker skies. Anyone else living in this area?

 

- Cal


Edited by Cali, 09 October 2019 - 08:32 PM.

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:11 PM

Heard about this earlier, wondering what kind of difference it's going to make. Doesn't look like city centers are going to go black. 


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:35 PM

Would be my luck it would be cloudy



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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:43 PM

Keep us posted!



#5 Cali

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:45 PM

Would be my luck it would be cloudy

Astrospheric sez I get clear skies for the remainder of the week.

 

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Edited by Cali, 09 October 2019 - 08:46 PM.

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Posted 09 October 2019 - 08:57 PM

The utility company Pacific Gas and Electric is shutting off the electricity in the Bay Area (Northern California), north past Napa, east past Sacramento, south including parts of San Jose and down to Santa Cruz.  (Map here).  Parts could be shut down for days. All of this is being done in the name of fire prevention. This should be both a unique and interesting experience as I will be in the backyard with every piece of glass I own in anticipation of somewhat darker skies. Anyone else living in this area?

 

- Cal

I guess you'll be up at 3am then,

otherwise they're will be that really bright 25arcminute Earth satellite reflecting lots of bright sunlight.........


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:03 PM

This means drinking warm beer or drinking it all before it has the chance.....


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:53 PM

I guess you'll be up at 3am then,

otherwise they're will be that really bright 25arcminute Earth satellite reflecting lots of bright sunlight.........

Don't ya just hate them pesky details!



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Posted 09 October 2019 - 11:58 PM

Keep us posted!

He can't, he won't have power. lol.gif


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Posted 10 October 2019 - 07:35 AM

The utility company Pacific Gas and Electric is shutting off the electricity in the Bay Area (Northern California), north past Napa, east past Sacramento, south including parts of San Jose and down to Santa Cruz.  (Map here).  Parts could be shut down for days. All of this is being done in the name of fire prevention. This should be both a unique and interesting experience as I will be in the backyard with every piece of glass I own in anticipation of somewhat darker skies. Anyone else living in this area?

 

- Cal

 

SDG&E has done this recently but only for small remote areas.  It happened to our little community of Boulevard but for some reason, they didn't shut our circuit down.  It was suggested that this was because both the local fire station and the sheriff's department are on this same circuit.

 

These shut downs are really responses to these large public utilities having been held accountable when their poorly maintained power lines have been the cause of major fires.  

 

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Posted 10 October 2019 - 07:52 AM

I thougjht Pacific Gas & Electric was a west coast rock band in the 60s...smile.gif


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Posted 10 October 2019 - 09:43 AM

It was planned long ago...its an alien conspiracy...why else would Thursday Night Football be Giants/Patriots?   Note: a reporter should check to see if the helmets have a foil lining.....I've definitely seen players practicing Naruto running.


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Posted 10 October 2019 - 10:00 AM

Would be my luck it would be cloudy

Yeah, when Hurricane Sandy knocked out the power around here, it was cloudy for the ensuing 3 or 4 nights.  The night before the power came back on was clear, but some neighborhoods around me must have already had power, because the light pollution was already back.  mad.gif  I did see the Veil Nebula for the first time that night, though, so, that was good. smile.gif


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Posted 10 October 2019 - 10:37 AM

Lights are on in North Marn!
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Posted 10 October 2019 - 07:43 PM

No wind at all in Placerville, but the moon is only a day or two from full.    Cliff


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Posted 11 October 2019 - 12:10 AM

Heard about this earlier, wondering what kind of difference it's going to make. Doesn't look like city centers are going to go black. 

I'm in the Easy Bay and I've noticed that the skies are somewhat darker and there is a near absence of the "light dome" affect around the horizon.

 

I'll take it.

 

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Posted 11 October 2019 - 03:16 AM

I thougjht Pacific Gas & Electric was a west coast rock band in the 60s...smile.gif

https://www.bing.com...09707&FORM=VIRE


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Posted 11 October 2019 - 05:36 PM

I think they were the 70's......but still bad.

 

Thanks Cali for a actual observation.


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Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:47 AM

We have a rare opportunity here....CA should take over the electrical grid and production, convert the positions to state employees.  This would allow CA to reduce electric bills, and step up conversion to renewable energy...could be an example of how it should be done....they couldn't do worse then the current situation.  PG&E has already shown incompetence and are now a danger to public safety.


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Posted 12 October 2019 - 07:26 PM

We have a rare opportunity here....CA should take over the electrical grid and production, convert the positions to state employees.  This would allow CA to reduce electric bills, and step up conversion to renewable energy...could be an example of how it should be done....they couldn't do worse then the current situation.  PG&E has already shown incompetence and are now a danger to public safety.

The power shutdowns are to reduce possible ignition sources (forest fire prevention) due to the forecast of high winds and dry conditions.

Fighting fires in high winds is an impossible task.

Because of inaction on many fronts to prevent dangerous fire conditions over years (failure to control growth, disregard of reducing fuels though controlled burns, mishandling of water resources) and the like have greatly contributed to the situation.

Trying to oversimplify the complexities involved doesn't help proper analysis.

 

No where in the country are high voltage powerlines, even the best maintained, not a risk for fires, especially with high winds and close trees and uncontrolled accumulation of fuels to sustained forest fires, and of course dry conditions......

 

As far as renewable energy,  grid controllers often have to notify solar farms to switch off because the grid can't handle the excess power contribution,

partially due to the inability to connect the grid infrastructure with neighboring states that could utilize it better in a larger system.

It's an easy google to understand why.......

And all the above is without mentioning politics at all,

just describing the situation better in case some want to research more deeply than some opinion piece in the local paper........


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Posted 12 October 2019 - 07:44 PM

We have a rare opportunity here....CA should take over the electrical grid and production, convert the positions to state employees.  This would allow CA to reduce electric bills, and step up conversion to renewable energy...could be an example of how it should be done....they couldn't do worse then the current situation.  PG&E has already shown incompetence and are now a danger to public safety.

Oh yes they could! The state is utterly incompetent at managing the forests and have allowed the brush and dead trees to get totally out of control which has led to the forest fire problem.  The state passed a law that makes utility companies liable even when they are not at fault.  If you think the current situation is bad just let a bunch of state employees run things.  Power bills (and taxes) would skyrocket as the corrupt and incompetent state ran things.

 

The state can't even build a train from nowhere to nowhere.  Cost overruns, unpaid bills and other problems are a result of their deliberately ignoring high speed train experts because they "could do it better".  Giving them control of one of the largest power generation and distribution systems in the country would be a disaster.


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Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:17 PM

Folks, let's not drift into politics please!


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Posted 13 October 2019 - 07:37 AM

Annnddd...its bright moon time

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Posted 13 October 2019 - 10:22 PM

If PG&E shuts down run, do not walk, to Mt. Tam


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