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#1 Nakedgun

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Posted 16 October 2019 - 11:14 PM

Just got an email on these.

 

Plossl-like APOV but good eye relief at shorter lengths.

 

https://www.mrstargu...eces-s/1844.htm



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Posted 16 October 2019 - 11:32 PM

Just got an email on these.

 

Plossl-like APOV but good eye relief at shorter lengths.

 

https://www.mrstargu...eces-s/1844.htm

7 elements, 4 groups, 50 degrees....interesting.

They'd better be sharp enough to give your cornea paper-cuts! ... ;-)

Looks like they are suggesting an agressive pricing campaign....not sure

    what the comparables are, though.   Wish they were 55 degrees...just a bit more. 



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Posted 17 October 2019 - 12:19 AM

https://www.cloudyni...-slv-eyepieces/


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 12:19 AM

Vixen SLVs are not exactly new... they have been around for some time.

 

I own several of them and I have found them to be very good performers, with incredible sharpness and contrast; noticeably sharper and more contrasty than any Plössl type eyepiece I've tried (and definitely more comfortable to use than Plössls). Off-axis/edge performance is in a completely different league than the Plössls and Orthoscopics I've tried, with stars being sharp almost all of the way to the edge.

 

With the exception of the narrower field of view I have found their performance to be pretty close to my Pentax XWs. I use them a lot due to their long eye relief, as I need to wear glasses while observing. I think it's great Vixen made the effort of making a complex eyepiece and optimizing performance rather than inflating the field-of-view at the cost of optical performance.


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:08 AM

Yes these eyepieces have been around for many years in different incarnations. LV, NLV, now SLV starting a few years ago. It made a little more sense in the LVW days because then you could opt for the contrasy views with long ER of the LV series, or pay another hundred or so to upgrade to the wide field LVW.

Last week I was comparing a LV to a Tak LE. It was very close, and the slight difference may have largely been attributed to slight difference in FL. But I thought the Tak did just edge out the LV. Of course the LV has better eye relief. So something to consider if you feel the SLV is overpriced. Keep in mind the LEs go for about $250. Ok, you might say those are overpriced too. If you are a wide field junky than neither will look that attractive to you. But some will pay a premium for top contrast.

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:47 AM

Not new, on closeout. Which means Vixen has probably redesigned the look and come up with a new letter combination for the same ep. Again. They're actually quite good, especially at the lower price. Had a set before and sold them. Maybe I'll buy another bunch. Maybe I need a financial guardian. lol.gif 


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:04 AM

They're kind of like a scaled down version of the Pentax XW. That was the impression that I got from the SLV's. They had a very neutral color tone and were pretty sharp, but the FOV wasn't my style, so I returned them.


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:09 AM

They're kind of like a scaled down version of the Pentax XW. That was the impression that I got from the SLV's. They had a very neutral color tone and were pretty sharp, but the FOV wasn't my style, so I returned them.

 

I like the narrow field of view. Not that I'm against wider fields, I've owned a complete set of Antares SWA and ES 82s but I like the narrow fields for lunar and planetary. 


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:10 AM

$109 is a good price. Periodically they go on sale for $119 but I don’t recall seeing $109 before. Not the deal of the decade, but if you were on the fence, or waiting for a sale, I would grab one (or more).

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:15 AM

I like the narrow field of view. Not that I'm against wider fields, I've owned a complete set of Antares SWA and ES 82s but I like the narrow fields for lunar and planetary. 

We all have our own style waytogo.gif

 

$109 is a good price. Periodically they go on sale for $119 but I don’t recall seeing $109 before. Not the deal of the decade, but if you were on the fence, or waiting for a sale, I would grab one (or more).

Scott

I got the ones that I tried on sale for $119 at the time. I think their MSRP is like $169 or something, so that's a pretty good deal.



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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:17 AM

When I bought mine they were $149.


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 01:09 PM

A note for potential purchasers:

These are sharp, and decent eyepieces BUT they are not the best for moon observations.

There is a reflective spacer used internally that makes such use somewhat problematic.

The price is good (and Vixen dealers will honor the prices), and they are glasses-friendly and nice and sharp.

They make good DSO eyepieces because of good contrast on faint targets.

You can't beat the price.


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 04:23 PM

I agree with Don about not using them for lunar viewing. I like mine for planetary viewing though. Very ortho' like IMO.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:15 AM

A note for potential purchasers:

These are sharp, and decent eyepieces BUT they are not the best for moon observations.

There is a reflective spacer used internally that makes such use somewhat problematic.

The price is good (and Vixen dealers will honor the prices), and they are glasses-friendly and nice and sharp.

They make good DSO eyepieces because of good contrast on faint targets.

You can't beat the price.

Don,

 

I reckon from what you're saying that the SLVs haven't been redesigned and that the initial issues remain the same.Because if they have, how difficult was it for Vixen not to address the problem of the reflective spacer.Too bad I guess because I've always liked Vixen.

 

George


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 07:26 AM

I don't think these have changed for years.

 

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The 6mm and 5mm above were bought a few years back. The 4mm is much more recent as I bought it specifically for the Saturn opposition this year. It's just so much more comfortable than staring through a tiny 4mm ortho' for long periods of time. As far as I can tell they all have the shiny ring spacer. 


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 07:59 AM

A note for potential purchasers:

These are sharp, and decent eyepieces BUT they are not the best for moon observations.

There is a reflective spacer used internally that makes such use somewhat problematic.

The price is good (and Vixen dealers will honor the prices), and they are glasses-friendly and nice and sharp.

They make good DSO eyepieces because of good contrast on faint targets.

You can't beat the price.

And this is why everyone has to have 47½ eps. It's a plot I tell you! It's a plot!  grin.gif


Edited by Hugh Peck, 18 October 2019 - 12:57 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 08:06 AM

The older LV series was made in Japan. My 9LV doesn’t seem to have any issues with viewing the Moon in my 6” Mak. Can’t speak to the Chinese SLV series though.

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 09:52 AM

The Vixen LV are hard to beat in dedicated solar ha scopes.  They're like my mini XWs.



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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:52 PM

I don't think these have changed for years.

 

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The 6mm and 5mm above were bought a few years back. The 4mm is much more recent as I bought it specifically for the Saturn opposition this year. It's just so much more comfortable than staring through a tiny 4mm ortho' for long periods of time. As far as I can tell they all have the shiny ring spacer. 

Ironic.  They have good coatings, decent polish, a non-rolling barrel design so they won't roll off a table, NO UNDERCUTS on the barrels, long eye relief, nice roll-up eyeguards, good control of exit pupil issues,

light in weight.  And that shiny spacer.  I haven't taken one apart, but It doesn't look like that would be difficult.  A little flocking on that spacer, and voilà! state-of-the-art.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:53 PM

Don,

 

I reckon from what you're saying that the SLVs haven't been redesigned and that the initial issues remain the same.Because if they have, how difficult was it for Vixen not to address the problem of the reflective spacer.Too bad I guess because I've always liked Vixen.

 

George

You assume there has been more than one production run.  Maybe not.


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 02:33 PM

Ironic.  They have good coatings, decent polish, a non-rolling barrel design so they won't roll off a table, NO UNDERCUTS on the barrels, long eye relief, nice roll-up eyeguards, good control of exit pupil issues,

light in weight.  And that shiny spacer.  I haven't taken one apart, but It doesn't look like that would be difficult.  A little flocking on that spacer, and voilà! state-of-the-art.

Yeah, that spacer definitely needs a good flocking! lol



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Posted 18 October 2019 - 02:42 PM

They also appear to have smooth barrels if that matters.



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 08:36 AM

The older LV series was made in Japan. My 9LV doesn’t seem to have any issues with viewing the Moon in my 6” Mak. Can’t speak to the Chinese SLV series though.

Scott


I’ll add that my 4mm and 5mm NLVs have no issues with the moon either. It’s a shame Vixen hasn’t addressed this issue with the SLV line.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 11:18 AM

I’ve been using Vixen Lanthanums for years. I have a full set of LVs. They work great in my two older Vixen refractors- like they were made for each other; oh yeah, they were! Let’s just say I’m a fan.



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Posted 19 October 2019 - 11:58 AM

A note for potential purchasers:

These are sharp, and decent eyepieces BUT they are not the best for moon observations.

There is a reflective spacer used internally that makes such use somewhat problematic.

The price is good (and Vixen dealers will honor the prices), and they are glasses-friendly and nice and sharp.

They make good DSO eyepieces because of good contrast on faint targets.

You can't beat the price.

What is going on with Vixen?

 

They completely lost the plot.

 

These eyepieces are meant to be used for planets and the moon (not many would use a 2.5mm for deep sky observations).

 

Regular retail price of $200 and a shiny unblackened interior design.

 

Are these oculars cheap Chinese made with a big unearned price tag?




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