Maybe I've lost my mind, but - I have a Starmaster 11" EL that's a wonderful scope. It's my third Starmaster, and I've loved all of them. So what's the problem? Two bad knees, a bad shoulder, a bad ankle, and being older than when I got my first one. It's just getting to be a chore to get the rocker box and mirror box out to an observing site. I'm finding myself taking it out less and less. And, with my soon-to-be full retirement, my wife and I are hoping to be spending more time camping, and the EL takes up lots of room in our truck - more than she will be willing to allocate. So I've been thinking of replacing it with something like the Nexstar 8se, or Evolution 8 or 9.25. If I reading the specs right, any of those would weigh less than the EL, but would they be more "transportable" when camping? And most important, would I feel like I've given up too much optically compared to the EL? Am I nuts?