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#26 Tyson M

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Posted 26 October 2019 - 01:15 PM

Thanks John,I have seen your pictures, I almost ordered a 130 but then this deal came up....

 

The scope really is a beast, so much so that today I had to add some height to the EM400 tripod to be certain the scope cannot hit the tripod when viewing at zenith....

 

Started with 500mm of 30mm Ø solid aluminium bar stock, chucked it in the lathe, parted off six 70mm pieces, bored 8.5mm holes through them and spin polished them.

Machined off a little flange on the back of the tripod adapter and bolted the 6 legs using M8 x 100mm s/s cap screws....

I love this mount set up!  The EM-400 metal tripod looks amazingly solid. Also, I was a big fan of the AZEQ6 as well.

 

You got a killer refractor on it!


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Posted 26 October 2019 - 02:10 PM

I love this mount set up!  The EM-400 metal tripod looks amazingly solid.

I have one of these tripods that I bought to carry my EM-500 ... they're heavy brutes. :lol: They're also incredibly stiff, so I decided to put my EM-500 on an AP pier and now use the tripod with my 900GTO at star parties.

 

I really like Matt's extension - it gives me ideas.


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Posted 26 October 2019 - 08:39 PM

and today the TMB-LZOS-APM is happily resting in its ScopeGuard case......  smile.gif

 

Yesterday morning the case was 1500mm long (to house the TMB with the previous owners imaging undecided.gif  train attached)

 

So I got to work drilling out 100 rivets to pull the box apart, then cut 150mm from each end of the box before squeezing 100 new rivets into their places.

The interior foam was also rearranged and shortened to better cradle the scope....

it now fits comfortable across the back seat of my car or under the bed of my motorhome ...

 

I was too busy to take 'before' pictures but had lots of time to admire my own handiwork cool.gif waytogo.gif

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Posted 26 October 2019 - 09:09 PM

Beautiful scope, Matt!  But I especially admire your machining on the mount extension and work on reconstructing the case. :waytogo:


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Posted 27 October 2019 - 05:49 PM

That looks excellent Matt smile.gif

 

I'm still looking for a solid but affordable mount for my 130mm F/9.2 TMB/LZOS. I'll be very interested to see how your AZ-EQ6 fares with your 152mm F/8. It might just be the mount for my scope too !

Not holding out for the new Rowan AZ100 then John? It looks impressively strong, for a 130mm refractor at least  https://stargazerslo...nt-more-photos/



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Posted 27 October 2019 - 06:56 PM

Hoping to get a bit of a comparison going this week between these two:  

(I told my wife flowerred.gif  I might keep the 140 and use it as a counterweight for the 150...... not amused undecided.gif )

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Posted 27 October 2019 - 07:04 PM

Congrats on picking up a seriously impressive refractor.  bow.gif waytogo.gif


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Posted 28 October 2019 - 02:34 AM

Hoping to get a bit of a comparison going this week between these two:  

(I told my wife flowerred.gif  I might keep the 140 and use it as a counterweight for the 150...... not amused undecided.gif )

nice shot! The 140 is really quite massive compared to the 152. I know the LZOS scopes are generally no slouch in sizes...

 

How much is the weight of the EM400. I can readily use my AZ-EQ6 with my CFF 185 in combination with an Losmany HD tripod (non-foldable). I am thinking of a better tripod for my AZ-Mount Pro than the tripod of the standard Skywatcher tripod, that came with the AZ-EQ6.


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Posted 28 October 2019 - 05:55 AM

nice shot! The 140 is really quite massive compared to the 152. I know the LZOS scopes are generally no slouch in sizes...

How much is the weight of the EM400. I can readily use my AZ-EQ6 with my CFF 185 in combination with an Losmany HD tripod (non-foldable). I am thinking of a better tripod for my AZ-Mount Pro than the tripod of the standard Skywatcher tripod, that came with the AZ-EQ6.


It's a bit of an optical illusion, the 140 looks larger than it is due to it being closer to the wide angle lens...

The Tak EM400 tripod is rated at 450Kg or 1000 pounds capacity... It weighs 15.5 Kg
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Posted 02 November 2019 - 11:27 PM

Still waiting for First Light for the TMB  undecided.gif 4.gif cloudy.gif I wonder how long .........

(The APM140 comparison is not going ahead either, a friend contacted me and now has guardianship of it.....)

Here is the current rainfall map:

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Posted 03 November 2019 - 12:31 AM

I see that BOM needs to install a field flattener on their rain radars wink.gif

 

That rain is a blessing for many, but hopefully you will get crystal clear skies soon, fingers crossed.


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Posted 03 November 2019 - 10:09 AM

Congrats, Matt! Your post gives me warm fuzzies all over and brings me back almost a year as I had a similar experience, though in this case the scope practically fell on my lap. You've reminded me of the gem I have:

 

https://www.cloudyni...ew-to-me-scope/

 

Eric

And Eric's scope is indeed a gem.

 

Eric, I hope you don't mind but I just can't resist posting a bit of proof.  Also, let's touch base.

 

You have an excellent lens Matt.

 

Jeff

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 02:50 AM

Congrats, Matt! Your post gives me warm fuzzies all over and brings me back almost a year as I had a similar experience, though in this case the scope practically fell on my lap. You've reminded me of the gem I have:

 

https://www.cloudyni...ew-to-me-scope/

 

Eric

Sorry I missed your post earlier Eric, it was Jeff's TMB photo of 'yours now' scope that got me thinking about buying one for myself, then a year ago, when this scope was advertised, I wasn't in a position to buy....

so I advised the Chris the seller to try it out for visual with binoviewers.  I later thought that was a silly thing to tell him as he might never want to part with the scope...

 

By sheer coincidence, when I got in touch with Chris he had just bought a 28" F3.8 Fullum mirror so the TMB became a victim of his aperture fever....


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 01:55 PM

Thanks, Jeff and Matt!

 

Matt, I am all the more honored to have Jeff's former scope . Jeff, I hope I do it and you proud :)

 

Regards,

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 06:58 PM

This scope is showing a lot of promise........  though the seeing last night was quite horrid with unstable air and bushfire smoke around, the views were still very nice up to 200x.

I shall have to wait for better conditions and a darker site to really form an opinion of how this scope performs compared to my previous menagerie of Taks etc...

 

If sure does look nice though .... lol.gif

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 06:59 PM

Business end in the evening glow at Mt Stromlo Observatory, Canberra.

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Posted 18 November 2019 - 08:11 PM

Just love those coatings!


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 09:07 AM

My latest and possibly last refractor purchase according to my dear ever-patient wife flowerred.gif .....

 

After a 2500 klm journey over two days from Canberra to Brisbane, I arrived home last Thursday with TMB-LZOS 152mm F7.9 @ 1200mm  # 245.....  cool.gif

It took quite bit of armwrestling to get my friend Chris to part with the scope, he had owned it since it was born...

 

In order to satisfy my OCD monster within, I decided that a little bit of cleaning was warranted so out with the objective cell to remove a bit of salty air haze from both inside and outside the cell.

 

I also removed the tube rings for a fresh coat of paint and just today added a carbon fibre/aluminium handle to make the beast more manageable.

 

First light will have to wait until the weekend due to family commitments undecided.gif

 

Next project is to make an extension for the EM400 tripod to get the scope high enough to clear the legs ... maybe tomorrow smile.gif

Hi Matt,

 

congrats to your newest purchase. I own a classic TMB LZOS 6" nowadays and are absolutley pleased with the optics. Moreover it became a collector item but before all - it`s the optic giving you all you may desire!

 

Enjoy yours and many, many joyfull evenings with it!

 

Cheers  Oliver


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 09:30 AM

Thanks John,I have seen your pictures, I almost ordered a 130 but then this deal came up....

 

The scope really is a beast, so much so that today I had to add some height to the EM400 tripod to be certain the scope cannot hit the tripod when viewing at zenith....

 

Started with 500mm of 30mm Ø solid aluminium bar stock, chucked it in the lathe, parted off six 70mm pieces, bored 8.5mm holes through them and spin polished them.

Machined off a little flange on the back of the tripod adapter and bolted the 6 legs using M8 x 100mm s/s cap screws....

WOW, what a nice job done with the machining and it fit`s the classic view of the APM TMB - hats off!

 

Cheers  Oliver


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 06:25 PM

Lovely looking objective ! smile.gif

 

One minor question, is the TMB Apo decal just on one side of the dew shield on your scope ?

 

It's just on one side on my 130mm F/9.2 which I thought a little odd when I got the scope but I've not thought much about it since then.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 07:17 PM

Business end in the evening glow at Mt Stromlo Observatory, Canberra.

Beautiful scope.


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Posted 19 November 2019 - 07:47 PM

Lovely looking objective ! smile.gif

 

One minor question, is the TMB Apo decal just on one side of the dew shield on your scope ?

 

It's just on one side on my 130mm F/9.2 which I thought a little odd when I got the scope but I've not thought much about it since then.

Hi John,

Yes, just on one side.  This decal was lifting a little around the edges so I carefully peeled it off the tube then trimmed the edges back to the actual design before adding some fresh spray adhesive...


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 09:07 PM

Looking very swish there Matt! Never looked through a refractor if that size, it would be quite encompassing I imagine.

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Posted 21 November 2019 - 03:38 AM

Looking very swish there Matt! Never looked through a refractor if that size, it would be quite encompassing I imagine.

Hi Colin, we’ll have to catch up when you head up north again. Nice dark skies around Parkes and Coolah...



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Posted 21 November 2019 - 08:41 AM

This scope is showing a lot of promise........  though the seeing last night was quite horrid with unstable air and bushfire smoke around, the views were still very nice up to 200x.

I shall have to wait for better conditions and a darker site to really form an opinion of how this scope performs compared to my previous menagerie of Taks etc...

 

If sure does look nice though .... lol.gif

I like the location you took your scope to Matt! I also like your RV (what are they called down there? Caravans?). And the scope itself is lovely. I haven't taken my sample to any dark sites yet for a work-out. Someday, hopefully....

 

Eric




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