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#26 ron scarboro

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 08:52 AM

As a guy that turns a little metal from time to time, I am in awe.

 

That stuff is a work of art.  I can’t imaging all the work and skill to turn and polish such delicate pieces.


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:22 PM

As the old saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  While the Moonraker scopes certainly appear to be finely crafted, I suspect they are more commonly adornments in wealthy estate manors than they are working telescopes.

 

 

They appear to be adornments in a lot of TV shows and movies (from the web site).  I wonder if they actually get bought as props.  And whether you could pick one up at a Hollywood set.  Greg N



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Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:29 PM

As a guy that turns a little metal from time to time, I am in awe.

 

That stuff is a work of art.  I can’t imaging all the work and skill to turn and polish such delicate pieces.

Well that's the thing.  Even if you know they can't possibly be better than a TEC 140 or an AP or a Tak etc., as an observing instrument, you just can't stop looking at them.  They are mesmerizing. 

 

Some things are too expensive for me to own.  I mean, I could buy one.  I could buy one of them thar $10k 80mm chrome scopes.  I *could* do that.  

 

BUT => someone like me should not own something like that.  I'm too much of a slob.   And that's the bare knuckle truth.  I throw that gleaming thing in the back seat of my car and drive it to the observing area the first thing that happens is it picks up a scratch where you'll notice it and then a generous dollop of dog hair.

 

And then there's the disappointing fact that an 80mm, or 100 mm, refractor, is just an 80 or 100 mm refractor.  If you've had them it's not like these are going to be much different.  

 

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:33 PM

That red one looked like a Ferrari for the eyeballs. It better have very fast optics in it, or otherwise, what would be the point of telling your girl, "How would you like to come upstairs and I'll show you my Moonraker!"

"...Also...my name is not Bond, but I own bonds...leather bonds"

"...to...um...hold the telescope in place when I travel, you see..."


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 06:36 PM

That red one looked like a Ferrari for the eyeballs. It better have very fast optics in it, or otherwise, what would be the point of telling your girl, "How would you like to come upstairs and I'll show you my Moonraker!"

"...Also...my name is not Bond, but I own bonds...leather bonds"

"...to...um...hold the telescope in place when I travel, you see..."

Oh dear. 


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Posted 04 November 2019 - 07:23 PM

You can purchase a high quality LZOS triplet lens assembly from APM and Mark will build you a scope with world-class optics.

 

If I had the “extra” cash and the room to display one (they need to looked at and looked through) then I would definitely have one.

 

These scopes are more astatically pleasing than many of the decorative vases and lamps and the like that I see on the Antiques Road Show and some of that “stuff” goes for a lot more money, and with one of these “art” scopes you can tour the universe.

 

Bob

True enough, but the only ones I've seen advertised had achromatic optics.  It seems achromats are required for the build to give the scope that long classic look.

 

No question about the aesthetic look, though.

 

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 08:35 PM

And another one on an old Vixen SP mount. 

Love that solar scope set upbow.gif


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Posted 05 November 2019 - 11:45 AM

True enough, but the only ones I've seen advertised had achromatic optics.  

 

Dom Q.

From the Moonraker website...

 

"Moonraker builds use Lzos, Zeiss, APM, D&G Astro Physics, Vixen, Carton etc. If you have a cherished lens you know where to bring it for a sympathetic OTA design.
Still not built a scope with a Tak lens yet."

 

HERE is a link to a LZOS 130mm F9

 

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 02:14 PM

Sorry to be the guy who does the car analogy, but seems to me these scopes look like Bugatti's, but depending on lenses, you could end up with performance that ranges from Lada to Bugatti. 

 

They are beautiful looking things. But at the same time, there's something to be said for the beater with great performance. 

 

Or, the scope with a beater appearance and expert user:

 

Bill Bradfield's refractor is hilariously ugly:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=RA_OF6-0wxk


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:15 AM

https://www.astrobuy...php?view=152433

 

http://moonrakertele...cope-range.html


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:17 AM

Not as nice as these  https://irpoyser.co....ass-telescopes/


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:25 AM

Of course the new Lowell has an 8"  https://www.cloudyni...ervatory-8-f12/


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 03:04 PM

Not as nice as these  https://irpoyser.co....ass-telescopes/

Personally I prefer chrome to brass



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 03:20 PM

So, in all seriousness, this guy has only been building these in the past year?

They are a feast for the eyes, and very well done. The labor alone is tour de force.

Well done, and I wish him all the best...

I'm sure we will start seeing them in the States, it's not like we are on a different planet.

This country is only 243 years old, compared to the centuries of rule and conquest of Europe.

We still lack some spit and polish in some respects, because we have been geared to results, versus putting finished touches on things.

We have the work ethic, we just need the craftsman ethic as well.

So kudos to this gentleman that has brought that to the fore once again...bow.gif


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#40 Ken Sturrock

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:13 PM

So, in all seriousness, this guys has only been building these in the past year?

 

Mark Turner has done astronomy-related machine work for a long time.


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Posted 09 November 2019 - 02:51 PM

They made the telescope in the TV show Altered Carbon on Netflix.
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Posted 09 November 2019 - 03:13 PM

 

They are beautiful looking things. But at the same time, there's something to be said for the beater with great performance. 

 

Bill Bradfield's refractor is hilariously ugly:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=RA_OF6-0wxk

It just shows that you don't need expensive gear to do something amazing with a telescope, you just need enthusiasm, and dedication.

Guys like Bill, Stephen OMeara, Walter Scott Houston, and Lessie Peltier are guys I look up to. They are the real observers not the guys with lots of money that can purchase any fancy telescope they want.


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Posted 10 November 2019 - 03:30 PM

Is Moonraker the one that uses a Tele Vue designed long achromat doublet or am I thinking of another scope?

 

Edit. Never mind I remembered. I am thinking of Sky Light refractors. 


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