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#76 gene 4181

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Posted 07 January 2020 - 10:44 PM

  Jond , that GSO Value line plossl 32 mm - 52 AFOV - 56 x -  2.666 Ex P  is 32.95 from Astronomics   , its almost  too inexpensive not too have it    JMO  ,  try out a few orthos and Konigs you get a chance thru it  . LOL , i'm nervous about liking it !  lol.gif    Compact  , IF you get an office chair  you won't even have too get up , you can just wheel around it   smile.gif


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:41 AM

Maks are unreal if you have the seeing for them!  They really suffer in poor seeing(which is what I tend to get more often then not).

 

Glad you're having fun! 

I’ll know more this summer if my seeing can support it. It really was a an amazing view. I kind of liked it better than my old 10” dob. Just a couple months before Jupiter rises for me to put it to the true test for me. 



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Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:43 AM

  Jond , that GSO Value line plossl 32 mm - 52 AFOV - 56 x -  2.666 Ex P  is 32.95 from Astronomics   , its almost  too inexpensive not too have it    JMO  ,  try out a few orthos and Konigs you get a chance thru it  . LOL , i'm nervous about liking it !  lol.gif    Compact  , IF you get an office chair  you won't even have too get up , you can just wheel around it   smile.gif

It was strange balancing out the scope on the mount. Everything was completely different for me. It’s so nice and compact. I might just pick up a 32, but I think first I’ll pick up a couple 1.25” between the 20mm and 16mm range. 


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Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:26 AM

Looks like you got a real bargain for a very good performer.  I also have the blue fireball 1.25” visual back and it is the best one I have used at that size.  
 

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Posted 08 January 2020 - 02:58 PM

Looks like you got a real bargain for a very good performer.  I also have the blue fireball 1.25” visual back and it is the best one I have used at that size.  
 

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Yeah I just picked one up myself as well as a better diagonal. Flexible dew shield comes in tomorrow and should have a 40mm plossl today. I’m going to have some fun with this scope for sure. 



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Posted 10 January 2020 - 03:46 PM

I don't like the 1 screw visual backs that Meade uses. On my Meade scopes I use either a click lock or a Celestron visual back. The Celestron has 2 thumbscrews. I found this at Agena https://agenaastro.c...-back-e-15.html It has a compression ring. 

Got mine in today. What a difference that little piece of equipment makes. 


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Posted 10 January 2020 - 03:52 PM

 Now you just have to wait till Sunday evening too try it all  out ,  unless you   " do "  a little birding    Windy's got the clouds clearing Sunday late afternoon


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Posted 10 January 2020 - 03:57 PM

Maybe. Hopefully. Not looking good for my area. Also got the dew shield in, so that will be nice to keep all the stray light out of shining directly to the scope. 



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Posted 12 January 2020 - 02:29 AM

I don't like the 1 screw visual backs that Meade uses. On my Meade scopes I use either a click lock or a Celestron visual back. The Celestron has 2 thumbscrews. I found this at Agena https://agenaastro.c...-back-e-15.html It has a compression ring. 

 

Just what I've been looking for. Thanks.


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Posted 12 January 2020 - 05:16 PM

With as cheap as they are, I purchased a 2” adapter as well. Not for trying low power wide field, but not to mess with my 2” skirts at higher power. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, but if it can handle everything with still a nice view, it will beat out buying 1.25”’eyepieces and a better diagonal for mid and high power. 



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Posted 17 January 2020 - 01:03 PM

If you like your views now, just wait until you add a binoviewer. It'll turn your Mak into a whole new instrument.

 

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 07:01 PM

So I did something, and I’m really glad I went and did it. I added a 2” visual back to my mak that only has an 1.25” opening. The reason why I’m glad, I read these forums enough to see how some members advise how bad it is or how it doesn’t help. I don’t really care what people say though until I try it myself for my own experience. Well my ES82 30mm in there, pretty much matches my view and wider, and nicer, than a 40mm plossl. I like getting the most out of my scopes. The 150 mak has so much more light grasp than my 100ED and you can easily see that alone in a target like Pleiades. The stars are so much more there. And they’re pin point. This makes this so much more versatile for me and so glad I made this decision for myself to do. I can see myself holding on to this now for a good long time. 

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Posted 20 January 2020 - 02:01 AM

I pretty much froze to death tonight, but, well worth it. What this scope did for me even on my Alt AZ Mount was everything I had hoped for. Orion popped, I could split some more clean doubles than I could with my 100ED. Once this cooled the stars and splitting were amazing. Not having to screw off my 2” adapters in my APM’s and being able to use my ES82 30mm and APM HDC 20mm, though this eyepiece did show loss of light more so than I had thought it would, pretty much seemed like an 82 degree of clean viewing, made going out tonight well worth it. The flexible dew shield definitely helped as I was worried before receiving it that stars would be dim even at a lower power, but now I’m thinking I couldn’t see as much due to how much light was hitting the glass from street lights and any other light around the house. All and all, again, glad I tried a mak out. Rides nicely on both my mount heads, extremely compact with almost no momentum arm, and the weight is just about where I want it with 2” accessories. By the way the 2” visual back I put on it was a fireball from Agena.
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Posted 20 January 2020 - 09:07 AM

So glad you are enjoying the Mak! 


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 06:11 AM

A very cold yet phenomenal night tonight. Now I have to get up in like 3 hours to set up for my sons birthday party. This scope is putting my 100ED to rest. Almost tempted to buy a true 2” opening mak. Like an ioptron, or newer synta. 

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Posted 01 February 2020 - 07:51 AM

You're really making me consider a 150mm Mak (I've been wanting to try a Mak, but had been eyeing up smaller ones). Sounds like you're having a blast with it!
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Posted 01 February 2020 - 08:57 AM

Wow. It has put the 100ed to rest. You must really be enjoying those high mag views! 

 

You know, you are making me miss my 6 inch sct badly. But that would make my 102 Access redundant and then I would have to sell it. And that would be foolish. tongue2.gif 
 

I have seriously thought about going from the 4 and 8 inch combo down to 3 and 6 because they would work better with my mount. I think it might be better to invest in a better mount though.
 

Enjoy the party! I hope you get through the day okay. It is amazing how much fun it is to have a good night under the stars, and then you pay the next day in direct proportion. gottahurt.gif


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 11:47 AM

You're really making me consider a 150mm Mak (I've been wanting to try a Mak, but had been eyeing up smaller ones). Sounds like you're having a blast with it!

I considered one for over a year before making the purchase finally. Always liking my refractors, the extra aperture is nice. The field is narrow though. No getting around that. And magnification moves up quick. But I’m loving it. 

 

Wow. It has put the 100ed to rest. You must really be enjoying those high mag views! 

 

You know, you are making me miss my 6 inch sct badly. But that would make my 102 Access redundant and then I would have to sell it. And that would be foolish. tongue2.gif 
 

I have seriously thought about going from the 4 and 8 inch combo down to 3 and 6 because they would work better with my mount. I think it might be better to invest in a better mount though.
 

Enjoy the party! I hope you get through the day okay. It is amazing how much fun it is to have a good night under the stars, and then you pay the next day in direct proportion. gottahurt.gif

I just wrote last night to a friend I have in Kansas that if and when the mak probably beats out the 100ED on planets (I looked at Mars last night, that doesn’t count with how low it was before heading in), I’d probably replace the 100ED with the AT102ED finally. The compactness of the mak, with low momentum arm, has me wanting shorter focal lengths now. Plus the 102ED will go wider. 
 

I think the 4”-8” combo is a lot better to have though. Now to just save up for that 8” mak lol.gif


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 12:17 PM

Lol! You’re right about 4 and 8. 8 is the most aperture I want, so a better mount is worth it. Hmmm......I will have to research the SV M2C and how it handles those Big Maks!I am with you on the shorter scopes and less moment arm. I think that’s a great idea! The AT102 and your mak will compliment each other very well!


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Posted 01 February 2020 - 07:08 PM

 

 

I think the 4”-8” combo is a lot better to have though. Now to just save up for that 8” mak lol.gif

 

Man, if only they were still available new!



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Posted 02 February 2020 - 01:32 AM

I just wrote last night to a friend I have in Kansas that if and when the mak probably beats out the 100ED on planets

On the planets, the SW 180 Maks will totally slay a 100mm refractor - and the AP 130GTX.

Aperture counts and the SW image quality is extremely good.

 

Ultimately the AP130 is still just a 5" scope, with the limitations that go with that.


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Posted 03 February 2020 - 09:31 AM

Last night after the Super Bowl  I had warmer weather and a slight haze out. But for the first time could see obvious vignetting through a couple of eyepieces. That was enough for me to make a decision. First off, I love the mak. 2nd off, want a newer one now with the 2” back as opposed to the 1.25” the Meade offered. So that’s where I will be going from here. 


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