wow, I did not know we had two EAA categories one being EAA imagers and the other EAA observers. I constantly watch and hope to broadcast on Night Skies Network many who use Sharpcap with their ZWO camera and obtain fabulous near real time results. Just because you had driver issues with your Atik camera with Shapcap does not make it a Sharpcap issue and down grade it as not very good EAA software. Surely there are many Sharpcap users here who are very happy and use this program with not much difficulty esp. with the great startup manual from Astrojedi.
Steve
Yes we do have people at opposite ends of the EAA spectrum and once again you are being deliberately provocative to those who use EAA merely for observing. Why?
The original purpose of EAA was simply to view what could not be seen though an eyepiece, for example to show youngsters at Outreach near live views, when they don't want to wait 30 minutes for an image to develop, or to overcome light pollution.
The fact that this Forum has been overtaken by Imagers is GOOD, as new software techniques benefit all. But it's important that you respect there are EAA participants that have ZERO interest in photography.
What bit of "Sharpcap is fantastic for imagers" suggests that I think it is a bad application?
My perfectly reasonable observation is merely that it is unnecessarily complex (e.g. over sophisticated) for the needs of those that don't want to produce award winning pictures and merely want to observe near live. By contrast, Atik Infinity and ASILive are far simpler for that less challenging purpose. However, Infinity is flawed for Imagers because it doesn't include darks/lights/auto-removal of hot pixels. However, ASILive does. How is that review unjust? Sharpcap now has a serious competitor in ZWO circles.
Where do I mention Atik/SharpCap CMOS driver issues in my post above? Again, this is deliberate provocation by you and EAA observers won't be intimidated by your bullying. It's true that I have mentioned this elsewhere but I have never apportioned blame and it's not relevant to this thread about ASILive.
But given you have raised this as an objection, the facts are that I personally put Atik Support in touch with Robin Glover at Robins request in about May 2019 and between them it was sorted by October 2019. There are long and frustrating threads in the SharpCap and Atik Forums because the Horizon would not work with SharpCap. However, the long delay meant I discovered Sequence Generator.Pro. However, due to the unnecessary complexity/sophistication of SG Pro for mere observing, I use its autofocus before switching to the far simpler Infinity. ASILive similarly doesn't support my focuser, so I will probably continue that practice with both Infinity and ASILive dependent on which camera selected.
I am sure existing Sharpcap owners will continue to support it and so they should as it is an outstanding application for all EAA purposes. But its learning curve compared to ASILive suggests to me that whether an EAA Observer or EAA Imager, ASILive will possibly become the software of choice for NEW owners, just as Infinity is the natural choice for NEW Atik owners. Having a gentler, easier to use entry option must be a positive. Folk can always graduate to more sophisticated options later (But ASILive does seems similar to Sharpcap, but simpler as it doesn't have to wrestle with multiple manufacturers/cameras).
Lastly, now that an easy option is available to me and my new ASI294 (ASILive), I too will probably embrace darks/flats on the fly as I do want the best views, albeit the odd hot pixel or vignetting has never bothered me before. But it doesn't mean I will ever routinely <save> images, My sole interest is observing and not in art. So please respect there are EAA participants that are not Astrophotographers and cease these bullying tactics. We won't be silenced by Imagers intent on driving us out of what was originally our forum. Can't we just play nicely?
Edited by Noah4x4, 25 April 2020 - 04:29 AM.
