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#26 belgrade

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 08:31 PM

ED 80Sf is now $500 with StarGuy as a CyberMonday week special- if anyone’s interested. The email says that discount is taken on checkout...

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:32 AM

Welp, my new scope is on the UPS truck out for delivery today. Wahoo!

 

Guess what? Its snowing...


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 01:50 PM

It has arrived in case anybody wants to see pictures. One thing I wasn’t expecting, and I actually had no reason to expect was that it did not come with a 1.25 inch adapter so I could use my Tak prism diagonal. Not sure why I thought it came with an adapter to use a 1.25” diagonal. No worries! I’m sure the flip mirror will do just fine until I can get one. The flip mirror is way bigger than I thought it would be.

Images seem pretty bright and super sharp just in my initial daytime alignment of the finder scope.

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:16 PM

Congratulations! I like the way it matches the Porta mount. I was using my 80mm scope last night. I decided to leave it setup on a photo tripod as my lazy grab-n-go winter setup. I left the same zoom in it as you have which I never use. Trying to keep it as simple as possible.

 

I hope it clears up for you soon so you can get out with it. I had a C80ED which is optically the same as your scope. I was very nice. You will enjoy the nice crisp views. 


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:27 PM

Congratulations! I like the way it matches the Porta mount. I was using my 80mm scope last night. I decided to leave it setup on a photo tripod as my lazy grab-n-go winter setup. I left the same zoom in it as you have which I never use. Trying to keep it as simple as possible.

 

I hope it clears up for you soon so you can get out with it. I had a C80ED which is optically the same as your scope. I was very nice. You will enjoy the nice crisp views. 

Thanks! The scope is actually bigger than I thought which is a good thing. I figured with a Vixen scope, Vixen mount and Vixen Zoom the skies would of opened up the stars would of shone and a bourbon would of magically appeared in my glass. NOPE!   ;)


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:42 PM

It has arrived in case anybody wants to see pictures. One thing I wasn’t expecting, and I actually had no reason to expect was that it did not come with a 1.25 inch adapter so I could use my Tak prism diagonal. Not sure why I thought it came with an adapter to use a 1.25” diagonal. No worries! I’m sure the flip mirror will do just fine until I can get one. The flip mirror is way bigger than I thought it would be.

Images seem pretty bright and super sharp just in my initial daytime alignment of the finder scope.

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Sweet. Looks like my Vixen ED80SF!! I told you, you will not regret your purchase!

Cheers

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Posted 04 December 2019 - 02:53 PM

Sweet. Looks like my Vixen ED80SF!! I told you, you will not regret your purchase!

Cheers

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You did tell me! You were right!  wink.gif

 

This thing is so much easier to move around than my Mak too. Not retiring the Mak, but it's going to rest in the colder months and share its time with its ED80 brother. I just ordered the WO 2" to 1.25" RotoLock adapter so I can use my Tak prism diagonal with it. Figured that it could then be used later on for my 1.25" EP's when I get the WO 2" diagonal I have my eye on. As for now, no more spending money and I will just enjoy my new scope with my current set of 1.25" EP's.

 

Oh, and as of right now Im thinking I could of gotten away with the regular Porta II instead of the Tall version. I'm average height and even with the Tall mount at its shortest its only about 8 inches shorter than what my Mak on its EQ3 is set at. Maybe looking through a refractor at the Zenith will be a different story. I guess even if I don't raise it too much that's just more stability in the legs.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 04:08 PM

Great looking Vixen set-up! Buy a Baader Clicklock 2" to 1.25" adapter for such a fine instrument.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 04:16 PM

Oh, and as of right now Im thinking I could of gotten away with the regular Porta II instead of the Tall version. I'm average height and even with the Tall mount at its shortest its only about 8 inches shorter than what my Mak on its EQ3 is set at. Maybe looking through a refractor at the Zenith will be a different story. I guess even if I don't raise it too much that's just more stability in the legs.

The longer legs will come in handy when you get your next larger refractor smile.gif. Once you look through one you're hooked.


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 04:37 PM

Great looking Vixen set-up! Buy a Baader Clicklock 2" to 1.25" adapter for such a fine instrument.

Thank you, excellent idea but I bought the William Optics RotoLock 2" to 1.25" adapter. It's red. The Vixen logo is red. Yes, I'm that shallow! ;)


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 05:55 PM

Thank you, excellent idea but I bought the William Optics RotoLock 2" to 1.25" adapter. It's red. The Vixen logo is red. Yes, I'm that shallow! wink.gif

I like red too! Primaluce for me!


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Posted 04 December 2019 - 08:40 PM

Beautiful!

But you do realise you are in for a raft of crummy weather, don't you?

Crap weather always comes with anything new.

 

Enjoy!


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Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:45 PM

Ready for these clouds to go away now that my RotoLock adapter is here and I can use my Tak diagonal with my ED80.

1.25” diagonals look so mall in a 2” focuser!

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Posted 19 February 2020 - 10:39 PM

Can’t believe it’s been two months since I got my Vixen ED80SF but I finally got some clear sky’s for a real first light. It was a little cold out so I didn’t spend too much time outside but I was able to pick out a few of the objects I’ve been wanting to hit on my list and spent about an hour. Overall I’m very please with this scope. I was able to get it outside pretty darn quickly and started observing after about 15 minutes of it sitting outside acclimating. Not sure if I needed to do 15 minutes or not. Could of been more or could of been less, not really sure but the views it gave me were pretty nice for that 15 minute acclimation time. All I know is that it was much less time than my beloved 127 Mak.

I looked at M42 (of course) and just stared at that for a while with my new to me ES 68 28mm. Not sure what it was about that view but I really just wanted to keep staring. I think that may of been my first real quality wide field view through any scope. I’ve seen M42 before in my Mak with a 32 and 25mm plossl but the view just didn’t compare. My fingers were getting a little tingly and numb so I moved on to a few other objects I had on my list which were a few doubles I wanted to see if I could split. Sure enough the ED80 seemed to like those as well using my Vixen Zoom at 8mm. Once I put the shorty plus barlow in the doubles really became apparent. While I still had the zoom and barlow in I thought I’d try looking at Venus which I was able to make out it’s current phase. I put back in the ES 28mm and moved over to the Andromeda Galaxy and as always just looked like a cotton ball to my eyes. But the stars around it sure did pop. It was nice being able to see the entire galaxy all within the FOV of my eyepiece for a change. That’s what I wanted this scope for! At that point it was getting colder out so I decided to wrap it up and go in and have a bourbon.

Overall I’m really happy with the scope. And am looking forward to some warmer weather when I can spend some more time outside with my ED80 as well as my Mak to look at some planets. Maybe go out and find a darker site or two this spring. I think I found a sweet spot for those wide field views where my Mak was lacking.

Thanks for reading and apologies for the rambling.

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Posted 20 February 2020 - 05:59 AM

Over the past year and a half I have purchased the following:

 

61mm f/5.9 Williams optics APO

80mm f/7 SV Access

102mm f/7 AT ED APO

102mm f/7 SV Access

 

I also have the 120mm f/7.5 SW APO.

 

In my opinion the 102mm f/7 provides the best balance of aperture/portability.    The 80mm f/7 had spectacular optics, but there were times when the exit pupil became dim before I got to the level of resolution I desired.  Definitely the same with the 61mm APO.   The 102mm keeps a large enough exit pupil at magnifications I like for my higher magnification/resolution views of deep sky objects.  

 

The 102mm f/7 can be G&G depending upon your set-up and needs.  If I wanted to I could throw a couple eyepieces in coat pockets and grab my mount with the 102mm f/7 and be out and set up in one trip.  With the 120mm f/7.5, the scope and mount must go out separately and I need anti-vibration pads, but it is still quick to set up - just cannot be done in one trip.

 

In reality, I don't ever do one trip out the door.  I take out the mount, then carry out the OTA, then bring out my eyepiece case, then the stack of 2x10" boards I use to adjust seating height on the bench seat I use for observing. 

Im a huge fan of the 102mm F/7 refractor for being a pretty solid instrument for just about everything.  Yes, other scopes or focal lengths will be better for specific types of targets but it’s hard to find anything that combines so much into one quite portable package.  Mount requirements arent  ridiculous, you get widefields at lower powers, you can do some magnification and maintain enough light throughput to enjoy it and the total package cost even with some premium eyepieces is tolerable for almost anyone. 




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