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Planetarium software that shows an image of Simeis 147

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#1 tubbyrincewind

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 06:28 AM

I want to have a crack at imaging Simeis 147 Spaghetti nebula, however, it is too large for my FOV, as such I wish to image a section of the nebula but this is where I am having a problem. None of my planetarium software shows an image of the nebula that I can use to determine framing, I have tried Stellarium, Sky Safari Pro and Cartes du Ciel. Can anyone suggest software that allows me to view the nebula with my FOV superimposed on top and will allow me to identify and choose a star to centre in the FOV to get the desired framing.

 

Thank you for your help.


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 07:04 AM

Aladin (i.e. VizieR) can show you surroundings of Elnath star, including Simeis 147. Also you can take any image of this object that you like and upload it to Astrometry.Net to determine coordinates:

 

http://nova.astrometry.net/upload


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 07:19 AM

http://www.astrosurf...glish/index.htm

Coordinates are in the SAC and Deep Sky databases: View - Deep Sky Databases.

In Tools - Field markers you can enter telescope and camera parameters.

 

Simeis 147 - Sh2-210.jpg


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 08:36 AM

KStars allows to use various imaging catalogues as background.  The default (DSS colored) is a bit faint for Simeis 147, but, e.g., DSS Red shows it nice enough for framing:

 

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:18 AM

Not sure why you couldn't do this in Stellarium.  I'm able to.  Be sure you have the Oculars plugin set to load at startup.  Go into the configuration screen for the Oculars plugin and you'll see tabs at the top that allow you to set up your sensor size.

 

For the nebula, I searched on sh2-240.  The Sharpless catalog is more commonly included in planetarium apps rather than the Simeis one.

 

-Dan

 

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Edited by Midnight Dan, 06 December 2019 - 09:29 AM.

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:33 PM

Framing and mozaic wizard in SGPro?

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:33 PM

Framing and mozaic wizard in SGPro?

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 04:14 PM

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Not a problem with SGP FMW

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Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:23 PM

http://www.astrosurf...glish/index.htm

Coordinates are in the SAC and Deep Sky databases: View - Deep Sky Databases.

In Tools - Field markers you can enter telescope and camera parameters.

 

attachicon.gif Simeis 147 - Sh2-210.jpg

Very cool, i gotta try this out


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Posted 07 December 2019 - 10:14 AM

KStars allows to use various imaging catalogues as background.  The default (DSS colored) is a bit faint for Simeis 147, but, e.g., DSS Red shows it nice enough for framing:

 

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Thank you very much for your suggestion, just what I was looking for - it works just fine, now to wait for clear skies of which there are very few in the UK at the moment.



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Posted 07 December 2019 - 10:17 AM

Not sure why you couldn't do this in Stellarium.  I'm able to.  Be sure you have the Oculars plugin set to load at startup.  Go into the configuration screen for the Oculars plugin and you'll see tabs at the top that allow you to set up your sensor size.

 

For the nebula, I searched on sh2-240.  The Sharpless catalog is more commonly included in planetarium apps rather than the Simeis one.

 

-Dan

 

attachicon.gif Stellarium.jpg

It ought to work in Stellarium but for me I do not get the target image, I have tried everything I can think of but to no avail - I  can only guess it may be a video driver quirk.




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