Konus Motormax 90 Vs. Meade ETX-90 Quality - Help
Posted 20 April 2004 - 12:46 AM
I have tried to find some reviews on the Konus Motormax 90mm but couldn't really find any so I looked at the bigger aperture model reviews instead. Overall the Konus line looks like it is a great bang for the buck Mak with the decent eyepieces to start off with and a flip lens feature which seems good for using two lenses withough having to switch out and for a little astrophotography on the planets later on when I'm ready. The tracking will help a lot with letting friends and family take good looks and would also help in minor astrophotography as well. I know that the EQ mount leave a bit to be desired on the Konus scopes but with a little effort I've read that people can fix it up into a decent mount. for a nice pricetag of $200 - $250US it seems like a great product.
As for the Meade ETX-90, it seems like the best small scope with tracking there is - great optics, good mount with GOTO, nice eyepieces, overall a complete package for an all around small scope. Only thing that is terribly daunting is the pricetag of $500 - $600US, that is about the price I'm looking to spend on my Dobsonian (either Orion Intelliscope X10 or Hardin Optical DSP 10").
One thing I don't want to do is get another bad scope into my home, while the Tasco was fun it is very limiting and I had to do a heck of a lot to get it at least a decent view out of it. Goto is a great feature to have for family to use with the Meade but is it worth the 50 - 60% price increase over the Konus (I think I know my way around the sky pretty well to find the things that the 90mm is capable of catching so I can use that money towards the Inteliscope controller to help me find DSO's with the Orion Dobsonian if I decide on it or extra eyepieces for both scopes)? I am also wondering what is the difference in optics and quality of the OTA's, is the Meade optics and build overwhelmingly better than the Konus or just marginally superior? Besides the differences in tracking options, are both the scopes about the same?
Any input highly appreciated, TIA!
Posted 20 April 2004 - 03:21 AM
Posted 20 April 2004 - 07:05 AM
Posted 20 April 2004 - 08:28 AM
Posted 20 April 2004 - 11:40 AM
Topcat: I'm glad to hear that the Konus is all metal and seems to have good optics, did you have to do any tweaking/mod's on the mount to better stabilize it or was it adequate right out of the box? How about the focuser and flip mirror - are they smooth operating or rinky dink, and how good is the tracking motor that comes with it and is the findersope mount on it a dovetail or some type of special konus mount? OTO alone, would you say they are both close enough in views to not really make a difference?
Posted 20 April 2004 - 12:03 PM
Posted 20 April 2004 - 12:24 PM
I have not seen alot of Konus scopes on AstroMart...
(must be a good value!!)
Posted 20 April 2004 - 01:15 PM
Posted 20 April 2004 - 02:11 PM
ETX 90 on EQ2 MOUNT
That is even worse than the ones with the Autostar, that is basicly $525 for the same setup as the Konus or the Orion Starmax 90mm. For that price I could get one of each of those other scopes.
Thanks for everyones input, like I was thinking they are pretty much the same scope but the Meade is way overpriced being twice the amount of other manufacturers with the same OTA setup. Goto should not mark the price up that high, I could see another $100 like the Celestron Nextar 80GT which goes for like $299-$399US.
I haven't really looked at the Orion Starmax 90 much but from what I've seen it is pretty much the same as the Konus with the exception of the included motor drive which comes with the Konus (not sure if the Orion includes a flip mirror system or not), but to add the drive it would be another $50US so that still makes it @ $100 more than the $229 price of the Konus. Seeing that the Konus Motormax 90 will only be @ $250US shipping included and I have read mostly comments stating that it is as good as the ETX-90 OTA wise and in some points better I see no reason to try it out, I'm sure it can't be worse than the Tacso Galaxsee I'm currently using(which I'm selling cheap to a co-worker).
Now if only I can decide between the Orion Intelliscope 8" or the Hardin DSP 10", decisions decisions decisions .
Posted 20 April 2004 - 02:47 PM
Posted 21 April 2004 - 11:06 AM
The Starmax does not have the flip system. That feature I really like. I hope you like it as much as I like mine. Let me know. Mine was packaged really well also. Some assembly is required. It will be nice to be able to compare a few Konus scopes just to see how their quality control is. I'm personally thinking of the Orion XT 10 as my DSO hunter. Keep in touch.
The votes are in and I'll be ordering the Konus Motormax 90 next week. Seems like your going the same route as I am and getting a dob for DSO's and the Mak for planetary viewing and quick views when you don't feel like lugging the 10" out to see something, good minds think alike ! Now I'm just trying to convince myself that getting the Orion 10" Intelliscope is not splurging and to cut the Hardin 10" out of my decision making process .
I'll be sure to come back to this post to post my findings with the Konus as soon as possible. A couple of the places where I'm debating n purchasing mine from (i.e. Antlers Optics) states that it now comes with a red dot finder instead of a finderscope, Could this be an updated model or something?
Posted 21 April 2004 - 12:00 PM
I've dealt with this guy a few times and he has good customer service. Since the price is the same as Digitec Optical It would be worth it to just get that one if it comes with the red dot finder since I would probably replace it anyway. I'll e-mail him to confirm the red dot to make sure.
Posted 21 April 2004 - 01:13 PM
Posted 10 May 2004 - 09:23 PM
How did the Motormax 90 work out for you?
Posted 11 May 2004 - 07:06 AM
So far so good...Although after reading all the negative post, I'm worried something will fall apart. Optically its wonderful and the mechanics of the OTA seem really nicely made. The Finder is junk and the mount is just adequate for a scope of this size. Fasteners are kinda junky also but that's an easy remedy. It serves its purpose as a quick grab and go for lunar and planetary viewing. I do have a machine shop at my disposal so any parts that need to be remade or improved upon won't be an issue. I know Chaz bought the 6" and while he seems happy with it optically, I guess the mount/drives needed a lot of fixing to be usable. I'd go with Orion if I had to do it over again. I've bought from them before and they are great people who stand behind the product. Are you considering a Motormax?
Posted 11 May 2004 - 12:29 PM
I was considering a Motormax, but with all the issues that seem to be surfacing im not sure, But then I read the whole discussion and at first Chaz was so high on the scope, then suddenly changed. It's just a lot of money to spend, I think I might be better off going to Cancun lol. I might just go with the orion, and take chaz's advise of looking for the clearance from Orion, but I don't want to spend that kind of money just to be disappointed.
So then I was kinda thinking that I wanted a scope that is less expensive and more portable. The 90mm seemed like it would be an ideal scope, but I'm worried about the quality. I would consider the Meade but $$$$$$$ is a big issue for that model, so I figure if the motormax 90 works, I could save some $$$$ (I could spend that on a VACATION!!)
Anyway, thanks to you and every1 that responded. =)
Posted 11 May 2004 - 03:45 PM
Posted 11 May 2004 - 04:03 PM
Justlooking, If your worried about all of the quality issues that Konus has been having then I'd suggest you look at the Orion Starmax 90. While it doesn't come with all the extra features and accessories of the Motormax 90, you do get quality parts and from what I have heard but not had to use yet excellent customer service in case anything goes wrong. Check out the mini review I posted here in the Cat's section to see what I thought of it. I say go with the Orion clearance model while it's there and add on the other accessories later if desired (motor drive, moon filter, etc.).
Posted 12 May 2004 - 08:07 AM
"Ok so enough is enough! Orion is now saying that the web picture is in error and it is just tough luck. I am really not believing that I paid $25.00 each for ugly round pieces of steel with a hole in the middle.
I am going to post the pictures I took of the weights so you can all see what you would be getting and what you should be getting. This is a picture of what they have on the web site. They look just like the Celestron weights and just like the one I have which is why I ordered them!"
Look at the Thread Orion Telescopes, is there any telescope company that gives good customer service??? I just want to buy a scope that if there is any problem I will be able to have it fixed =(