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#1 SMark

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:58 AM

Cory says it really works well too...

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 03:51 AM

That would be useful at night if your area is light-polluted. And in the daytime if sun and sky glare are problematic. And some people are more distracted by ambient light than others. If you are easily distracted (most of us are) --- $20 and free shipping - certainly worth trying! Don't like it... just throw it out! (Hmmm... maybe I'll buy one... to do list for approaching morning... after my three mile hike thru the woods!)   Tom


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Posted 15 January 2020 - 06:44 AM

... they don’t stretch well around the larger eyepieces that many of my binoculars fans to have. I use a hood, though gravity is not kind when looking towards the zenith ;-)
For daytime use on my birding binoculars they are invaluable!

Peter

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 07:02 AM

Bino Bandit has become a mandatory add in to my binos, works perfect in my 8x42 and in my Zeiss 10x50 but the biggest effect is in my 15x70. i need to pull it hard to fit the eyepieces, but once installed, it improves a lot my observations from my city location.

 

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 07:42 AM

I like my Bino Bandit on this Swarovski binocular. I have used on the other binoculars etc.  SMark I would think that would help Cory out quite a bit looking at the shadow on the picture.

 

Carlos very nice pictures showing the different way to use this Bino Bandit.

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#6 Neil Sanford

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 10:14 AM

IMHO the wise use of the Bino Bandit is on "large" binos such as the 15x70 and the big eyes in the above photos.  Smaller roofs and porros, say around 8x30, 7x35, even some 40-42s, can be held with hands cupped around the eyepieces.  This achieves the wonderful side light blockage of the Bino Bandit plus these two benefits:  steadier hold braced to cheeks and brow; no bulk and finicky handling of adding a floppy neoprene accessory to an otherwise compact and easy handling model. 

 

I have quite narrow IPD and deep eye sockets.  The Bino Bandit allows me to use models that I otherwise could not, because I can fold down or screw down the eye cup all the way, without generating view-ruining side light. 

 

(Steve's beautiful Swarovski SLC is a special case.  Normally I would say ditch the Bandit and learn to cup your hands around the eyepieces.  On a small bino like that, you would gain both a steadier view and easier handling.  But note that the SLC focus knob is fully forward on the axle.  So if you want to be focusing a lot, the Bandit is perfect for that particular small bino ... but IMHO not others.  By the way, using my SLC I hardly focus, almost always viewing distant targets, so I cup my hands and it's great.) 

 

One more opinion:  There is a suggestion above that side light is a matter of individual preference.  I disagree.  We obsess over baffling, blackening, prism leaks, contrast, etc., praising and paying large sums for alpha models that show us only the target and no other light.  IMHO when you hold with cupped hands on smaller binos or add a Bandit to larger ones, you are in all cases (not individual preference) making your view more alpha. 


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Posted 15 January 2020 - 11:22 AM

I use 'em and they work quite well, especially if you hover over your eyepieces. No problem stretching around lenses. With objectives, that's a different story ;>)

 

Obie 12x60, 20x80, 25x100

 

I've even used them on the lenses on a binoviewer.

 

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:19 PM

... they don’t stretch well around the larger eyepieces that many of my binoculars fans to have. I use a hood, though gravity is not kind when looking towards the zenith ;-)
For daytime use on my birding binoculars they are invaluable!

Peter

Cory Suddarth wrote me...

 

"Don't laugh! A small mod on the eyepieces (of the nicely refurbished 20x120) and wha-la!"

 

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Posted 15 January 2020 - 03:22 PM

Just ordered one to try on my IS 15x50s.....cool.gif



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Posted 15 January 2020 - 06:36 PM

Just ordered one to try on my IS 15x50s.....cool.gif

I tend to keep my Bino Bandit attached to my 15x50 IS. 


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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:24 AM

IMHO the wise use of the Bino Bandit is on "large" binos such as the 15x70 and the big eyes in the above photos.  Smaller roofs and porros, say around 8x30, 7x35, even some 40-42s, can be held with hands cupped around the eyepieces.  This achieves the wonderful side light blockage of the Bino Bandit plus these two benefits:  steadier hold braced to cheeks and brow; no bulk and finicky handling of adding a floppy neoprene accessory to an otherwise compact and easy handling model. 

 

 

.....IMHO when you hold with cupped hands on smaller binos or add a Bandit to larger ones, you are in all cases (not individual preference) making your view more alpha. 

 

Tha is exactly my assessment, with small binos we can use the hands, but moving to heavier binos like the 15x70, the bino bandit helps to block the stray light, so we do not need to use the hands as eyecup, moving the support point to a better place (in case of hand held). The Bino bandit has improved significantly the performance of my 15x70, its more enjoyable, a immersive experience.  I use it also with glasses and the binos retracted eyecups without any issue.

 

Here a pic with my gone Skymasters.  Worked very well, better than the current Helios IF

 

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Posted 17 January 2020 - 11:12 PM

I’m completely on board.  Once I tried them I was hooked.  I now have two bino bandits, each of which stays attached to a different binocular.  Transforms night time binocular observing.


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Posted 18 January 2020 - 11:53 AM

Found they work great on my BV's and Binoculars. 


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Posted 18 January 2020 - 01:30 PM

Found they work great on my BV's and Binoculars. 

Hi Mike,  Have you tried them on your APM 100mm 45 BT and if so what is your assessment? 

 

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 03:24 PM

Clearly made daytime viewing more enjoyable on my 15x50 IS.

 

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 06:50 PM

Agree with Mr. Bill. I too just got them for my 15x50IS and it makes them easier to use for me.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 12:33 PM

I use them for daytime and love them.  They were indispenable for city viewing at night.  At a truly dark site, it is surprising how bright the surroundings are once I am dark adapted.  They get used at dark sites too.


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Posted 23 January 2020 - 01:38 PM

They also need to make one for the other end.



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Posted 23 January 2020 - 06:35 PM

Hi Mike,  Have you tried them on your APM 100mm 45 BT and if so what is your assessment? 

 

Rick

Not yet, but I can only see them as an improvement.



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Posted 24 January 2020 - 07:18 PM

Bino Bandit works great with swarovskis 12x50 , works fantastic for me day & night !

Although not so great with the APM 120 with big eyepieces ,way more trouble than its worth .

I briefly asked Mr. Suddarth about how to modify a head rest type glare block like the big binocs military uses ,

he sent a couple pics of some custom things he's done but not for these APM but i guarantee he could 

pull it off if he had time .

 

Anyways i like the bino bandit but wish i had a cool guy type thing that fit the APM rig nice and proper .

 

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 10:40 AM

Look like a stretched rubber band on the APM, about to go ping off into the bushes! The other problem is that they hinder the focussing of IF bins (less of an issue in the nighttime when focussed). I have thought of making some wide wonder eyecups that can rotate round or a big wide “thing” that would attach further down so you could adjust focus easily..... not taken it further yet.

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Posted 25 January 2020 - 04:05 PM

They do ride high on IF eyepieces of the APM 16x70s.  They are just too tall to keep the bandits under the IF mechanism.  I usually focus then slide them up.  Even during the day, the focus rarely changes.  At some point, one is better off adding draw strings to the leg holes of speedos - preferably a new pair.  I'm not there yet.



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Posted 17 July 2020 - 05:09 AM

9508F23F-1C73-4E7B-A7B4-0B5B1A6820A5.jpeg I fitted my Bino Bandit to my pair of Vixen SG 2.1 x 42 wide bio's, works fine.

 

Also a mention to their Spot Bandit for use on Long Eye Relief eyepieces as I don't like to hover over an eyepiece and have stray light intruding, shown below on my Vixen LV30 and Celestron Ultimate 35 eyepieces which will both get a lot more use in future.

 

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Posted 17 July 2020 - 08:02 AM

I have had too much fun with contact adhesive and bits of bike inner tube... now I have a box full of custom eyecups for all the optics I have:

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Posted 17 July 2020 - 09:42 AM

Those shields are pretty awesome...But in all honesty the first thing I do when I get a new pair of bins is to pull off the eyecups....

No, I don't wear glasses, but I like to use my glass, summer included....Any eyecups or shieldings at all seem to cause excessive fogging from sweat evaporation...

Maybe I'm an oddball? Anyone else do the same?


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