Cosmos
Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:52 PM
I've made some good progress on the 68/1000mm Cleanstoration.
It's going to get its own thread, but In the meantime, here's a sneak peek.
Would you believe it was probably the crustiest scope I've ever bought?
From seeing that picture, I now know where the brackets I purchased here on CN over a year ago, came from, a Mizar telescope.
Lift Off
Posted 06 March 2020 - 02:46 AM
ok so the Mizar brand Mizar.
Thats a **** fine looking GEM mount!
Never seen one of those in Britain.
Cosmos
Posted 06 March 2020 - 09:17 AM
wow, ty.
so, going overload as I have no time. I need to go see a math teacher for breakfast. Here is the Mizar it's off the edge need to do all these sam ting. I guess easier from full right, the Towa brand 339 still complete and awesome about time to take that down. next left is the 10TE complete nicest of the bunch that was here, has that special box Stephen knows about. next is a box, if something isn't over under a tripod then it's a box.
That's a Sears 2344 loaded with some specialties including whatever is on it and extras inside, and that one needs to go up while others are....box time. So that gets over to the half shot of the Mizar 68mm on the left edge.
Edited by apfever, 06 March 2020 - 09:18 AM.
Cosmos
Posted 06 March 2020 - 09:20 AM
Here's the Mizar and the other Meade/Mizar model 320 in box. I've always wanted to see these stay together.
Cosmos
Posted 06 March 2020 - 09:23 AM
Here's the Meade, all the goodies are there. I've had more of these and this one in original box is pretty nice and complete. The other 320 are gone. I'll get this up.
Cosmos
Posted 06 March 2020 - 09:26 AM
Here's the Mizar, yeah I know it's dusty, not an issue, it's up so i'll dust. Need to fly for meeting. maybe I can do a scope or two a day on the big guys if I get all these up/down later.
Viking 1
Posted 07 March 2020 - 09:43 AM
Clutch and drive that came on my Mizar SP mount.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:22 PM
Here's the barrage of Mizar. Mostly getting the Meade 320 out. This one is in fairly new condition. It's the only one I have now, had more, the rest has been gone. This is pretty fresh from original rubber tips to wherever. Original box is double corrugated outside and more inside. The mount rest in the cardboard cubes. Some of this looks like my packing maybe a few or several years ago.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:29 PM
Legs were under the tube, the Styro is handy, one of those original Tupperware holders that has a Meade label on the inside of the lid. Original tools, eyepieces, diag., etc. Should be complete. No paperwork here but should have some I don't cherish looking for so....won't yet.
I'm not a fan of slotted hubs. BOTH the Meade and the Mizar have slotted hubs. I know it's ideal for some but I'm total captive through holes thank you. This is an easy way to float the legs up in the slots, why not, I have the room, even did the Uni 152 here.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:35 PM
So, up front, I have 5 pictures on this file. I wouldn't know a Mizar SP from an AR, or era from era if they were made long enough for an era. I'll try to keep detail but have to resize some.
Both units have Polar scopes. The polar scope for the Mizar is done in a different way with fading color that's interesting.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:41 PM
picture 2.
The Mizar has an interesting anodized (I think) color on both axis, not faded, pretty nice. I used Goof Off and what looked like rust or ...yuchhh...cleaned off nice. The basic finish is all good but yeah dusty I know. Some evaporust if I were to go through it on small stuff. All the mechanics are great. Grease could use a hypo shot but it's way smooth like cold butter.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:48 PM
picture 3.
One more Mizar then back to comparison with the Meade version. I'd never consider ripping off the coating from things like the weight shaft. Just rip off the rust, and protective coat it with a soft wipe type inhibitor. Anything I've gone for sparkle on has sparkled enough, but it's a chunk of day to do it all. Nothing needs to be taken apart or fixed.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:53 PM
Picture 4, should be one more.
Here's both the Mizar with label and the Meade Mizar from the other side. I'm surprised by the Meade version using the tube crush concept of the Celestron assembly with Polaris. In this case Mizar does have a larger contact area and the refractor tube isn't subject to crush. The 80mm Celestrons didn't suffer (much) either.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 02:58 PM
last one of these.
both mounts from another angle. I didn't think of getting nice pictures of the nice labels and other such things I should have known about....focuser finder assemblies....objectives are both good so not a fan of working for that 'clean' shot. I did do the last two trying to get the back counter weight in the openings.
Cosmos
Posted 07 March 2020 - 03:04 PM
Any ideas of models or what's different? I think the prop style knobs are original. Eventually I'll work some shine on these and keep them together as a set, at least I'd like to keep them as a set here or elsewhere as a posterity thing. The Mizar has no box as far as I know. If I should have one, I don't remember it. So I had this closer shot that is already in a picture on the double potato recliner. last Mizar unless a request for some picture or ….ask.
Surveyor 1
Posted 10 March 2020 - 02:02 PM
Here's the Mizar GT 68 (68 x 800) refractor. Mid-1980's. I don't think it was marketed in the U.S. This one was bought in Japan by the person who sold it to me. He bought it used from a shop but in great condition. There's an engraved metal plaque on one of the tripod legs stating that it was gift to an employee after twenty-five years of service to Sumitomo Metal industries, Ltd.
It's a handy length and a lot of fun. We should all be so lucky as to get this after 25 years.
The alt-az mount looks and feels like a Kenko, a very nice match for the scope. Also these 3 eyepieces, the likes of which I haven't come across elsewhere. At a guess, NR = neo-Ramsden?
Viking 1
Posted 10 March 2020 - 02:40 PM
https://www.mizar.co...493_600x750.jpg
This may be your mount, from a link you posted for me in 2016.
Surveyor 1
Posted 10 March 2020 - 03:11 PM
That looks like the mount. A few years ago I found a 1988 sales catalogue on the internet. The mount was called the K68 mount, and I think the scope-plus-mount model was listed as K68M. The date on the engraved plaque is 1985.
The mount also works nicely for the Mizar-Hino Opt. 110 X 800 newt. The newt is an oddball. The primary is indeed 110mm. The large Mizar sticker on the OTA was printed for the 100 X 800 model. But a small foil sticker saying 110 had been neatly placed over the original '100'. The small 'correction' sticker eventually came off and got lost.
This OTA really wants to look like one of those upscale Taks.
Viking 1
Posted 10 March 2020 - 03:18 PM
Viking 1
Posted 10 March 2020 - 03:28 PM
Doh still not the right one, catboat you might have to repost it if you can find it.
Cosmos
Posted 10 March 2020 - 05:27 PM
Here's the Mizar GT 68 (68 x 800) refractor. Mid-1980's. I don't think it was marketed in the U.S. This one was bought in Japan by the person who sold it to me. He bought it used from a shop but in great condition. There's an engraved metal plaque on one of the tripod legs stating that it was gift to an employee after twenty-five years of service to Sumitomo Metal industries, Ltd.
It's a handy length and a lot of fun. We should all be so lucky as to get this after 25 years.
The alt-az mount looks and feels like a Kenko, a very nice match for the scope. Also these 3 eyepieces, the likes of which I haven't come across elsewhere. At a guess, NR = neo-Ramsden?
Very Nice!
60/800mm scopes, not as common and a nice in between size.
Edit: 68/800mm, not common at all!
Edited by Kasmos, 11 March 2020 - 03:21 AM.
Surveyor 1
Posted 11 March 2020 - 02:13 AM
Lets try that again.
That may not be the Mizar link you wanted, but I enjoyed it. Nice promotional video, and it looks like the same mount as mine -- or a very close derivative. Thanks for posting it. Is the K mount still in production? That would be my guess from the video.
Doh still not the right one, catboat you might have to repost it if you can find it.
Repost a link from 2016? 
I'm not sure I remember the year 2016!
I posted a pic of the GT 68 in one of the ''Show us your ____mm refractor threads'' that were running a couple of years ago for different size refractors. I probably squeezed this 68 into the 60mm category. Other than that ... 
Viking 1
Posted 11 March 2020 - 05:29 AM
Viking 1
Posted 11 March 2020 - 05:49 AM
AR-1s from that link
Edited by walter a, 11 March 2020 - 06:09 AM.
Cosmos
Posted 11 March 2020 - 07:53 PM
I recalled some eyepieces, thought I had a few out loose. I found one in this loose pile but thought there was more so then found the box.
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