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#26 sonny.barile

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Posted 02 April 2020 - 02:20 PM

Stumbled across it when looking at the product comparison table.

Oh.....When I couldn’t see it I dumped my cache. When that didn’t work I figured you may be spoofing us for an April fools prank. grin.gif lol.gif


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 09:00 AM

Did Kevin raise the price of the 100XL SD? About a week ago, I thought the price was $400 more than the ED. Now it’s $455 more. 



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Posted 03 April 2020 - 09:06 AM

Oh... And the effective aperture is up to 99.2% on the 127. 



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Posted 03 April 2020 - 11:31 AM

Oh... And the effective aperture is up to 99.2% on the 127. 

Yup, it was at just 99% last time I looked vs. the original 100%.

 

Maybe there's some fine tuning of the testing going on, or maybe numbers are being jockeyed just to keep our attention and interest?

 

At least 99.2 is a step back in the right direction, not that it makes much difference.

 

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Posted 03 April 2020 - 03:30 PM

Did Kevin raise the price of the 100XL SD? About a week ago, I thought the price was $400 more than the ED. Now it’s $455 more. 

Looks like the SD went up $100. I purchased one at the old price just last month.



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Posted 03 April 2020 - 05:15 PM

New photos up as of Friday, with comparisons to the 100XL-SD: https://oberwerk.com...ular-telescope/


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 05:56 PM

Kevin shows it mounted on a Manfrotto N12 head; I wonder how that combo works out with a 25# BT?  question.gif



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Posted 03 April 2020 - 07:04 PM

I don't know, that's got to be pushing it.


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 07:23 PM

New photos up as of Friday, with comparisons to the 100XL-SD: https://oberwerk.com...ular-telescope/

Wow.   They are monstrous in comparison to the 100’s. There is a pic of them with 7mm ep’s loaded. I have those and I know how big they are. They look tiny in the 127.......



#35 Mr. Bill

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Posted 03 April 2020 - 08:05 PM

Think fork mount.......and Manfrotto 161MK2B

 

Just my two cents


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Posted 04 April 2020 - 03:22 AM

Kevin shows it mounted on a Manfrotto N12 head; I wonder how that combo works out with a 25# BT?  question.gif

Probably works ok. I often have to set my N12 counterbalance to minimum with my 100's. The N12 is rated to 26 lbs.

 

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 01:09 PM

Having had the original Obie bt100-45, this is same weight I think. I’m strongly considering this, as long as no fingernails...

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 01:15 PM

What does 5″ apochromatic (FCD100 / FK-61 triplet) mean?

1 FCD100 triplet

2 FK-61 triplet

3 triplet containing FCD100 and FK-61

Which one?

By the wording of the Ad "Our newest and largest XL Series Binocular Telescope features 5″ apochromatic (FCD100 / FK-61 triplet) objectives"

I think it's safe to say #3


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Posted 04 April 2020 - 07:51 PM

Probably works ok. I often have to set my N12 counterbalance to minimum with my 100's. The N12 is rated to 26 lbs.

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It's always possible to squeeze out a few more pounds over the limit of a fluid head by adding more tension.

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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:31 PM

Remember the weight rating for the N12 is based on cameras. I would think the COG ( Center of gravity ) with a 25 lb binocular with the N12 head would be to much for it.

 

Believe I learned that from you Range88 wink.gif  From using my Bt100XL with that head, I do not think that I would trust it with twice the weight.


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Posted 04 April 2020 - 08:34 PM

I bet we’ll have photos next week of something closer to the APM fork mount: http://apm-telescope...em/333531393932
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Posted 09 April 2020 - 06:16 AM

Interesting......unfortunately just looked at my investment portfolio.....tongue2.gif  

No Problem- financial advisors are saying the market will roar back by the end of the year       lol.gif

 

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Posted 09 April 2020 - 01:31 PM

A 127mm triplet bino with some SD glass and 25 lbs is interesting to me... I'd probably have to sell my present APM 100mm-90 binos and my super-sharp SV105 f/6.19 triplet to afford it. I'm not sure how much the TMB-designed SV105 would fetch with the competition from today's Chinese APO market. Probably not much...

 

Is the 50 lbs a shipping weight, or the weight of the binos + case? Not sure I can sign up for pulling 50 lbs out of my vehicle for setup...

 

I wonder if a lighter Pelican "Air" case is available to fit?

 

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Posted 09 April 2020 - 01:37 PM

A 127mm triplet bino with some SD glass and 25 lbs is interesting to me...

 

Is the 50 lbs a shipping weight, or the weight of the binos + case?

 

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50 lbs is the shipping weight.

 

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 07:37 AM

Hi to all. Kevin has sent me yesterday night an image of the new fork. You can find here: https://www.binomani...o-apocromatico/

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 07:46 AM

Hi to all. Kevin has sent me yesterday night an image of the new fork.


Any word on pricing? The superficially similar APM forks go for $650 (standard) to $1000 (big).

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 07:46 AM

Hi to all. Kevin has sent me yesterday night an image of the new fork.


Any word on pricing? The superficially similar APM forks go for $650 (standard) to $1000 (big).

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 08:09 AM

Any word on pricing? The superficially similar APM forks go for $650 (standard) to $1000 (big).

Sorry, any news about the price. He said me that maybe could be arrive in Italy, at the end of May, a specimen. I will have the possibility (covid permitting) to compare with a Vixen BT 126 and a APM APO 120.

Happy Easter to all.

Piergiovanni


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#49 sonny.barile

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 01:24 PM

127’s on a fork will be sweet. I wonder if it will have package pricing with the TR3.....



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 01:57 PM

Our hobby sure is getting expensive. We have a quest for good optics and large binos and performance. The price for that now matches and even exceeds that of top notch Refractor and Cass systems size for size. And that is for the instrument alone, mount not included. I need to make more money......


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