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#1 Stuart W Johnson

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 12:02 PM

Hello.  I have the Canon 10x42L IS binoculars.  They are absolutely fantastic.  I am considering getting the IS 15x or 18x.  But, I don't want to spend the money if something new will be released soon.   The 15x is on sale at BH.  So, it got me wondering.  I saw that Canon had updated some of the lower end IS binoculars. 

 

Has anyone heard any rumors about a new version of the 15x or 18x coming out soon? 

 

Thanks.


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Posted 29 May 2020 - 01:24 PM

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 02:40 PM

I have been wandering about the same thing. How long ago were the 15x and 18x released? No upgrades and no new 50mm or larger IS models at all! 



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Posted 29 May 2020 - 03:30 PM

I would say they are out now since 20 years.

I am hoping for an upgraded version too

 

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 03:36 PM

Smaller new models have come out in the last few years. The 15x and 18x are known quantities, I’d grab one if you wanted to, the risk is that they might stop being sold as much as new big models come out.!I've seen the 18x once and it’s quite a heavy brick. My 12x are a good compromise for daytime, the III model is supposedly even more stable, shows some nice stars.

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Posted 29 May 2020 - 04:01 PM

This is pure speculation, but I suspect the IS binocular market is still alive and well.

 

- In August 2017, Canon released the 10/12/14x32 lineup of IS binoculars
- In January 2018, Fuji release the 12x28 compact IS binoculars
- In September 2019, Canon released the 8/10x20 lineup of compact IS binoculars
- In October 2019, Fuji released a new version of the 14x40 techno-stabi
- I've also noticed several companies releasing their own re-branded IS binoculars in the past year or two (Kite optics APC, Vixen IS, Opticron IS, Kenko VC Smart, Viking Scout IS)

 

Considering that the Canon 15x50 was first launched in 2002 (That's nearly two decades ago!), it certainly feels like there is a lot of recent activity happening. I think companies are starting recognize the value of image stabilized binoculars for consumers. However, as you've noted, there is a conspicuous gap in the availability of new, affordable (I’m looking at you, Zeiss 20x60), large aperture IS binoculars. Will we get a new set of 40mm+ Canon IS binoculars? Given their recent releases of the 8/10x20 binoculars, I have hopes that they're continuing to fill out their lineup. But for now I can only wait and dream smile.gif .


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Posted 29 May 2020 - 09:30 PM

I usually pair the 10x42 with the 18x50. With those two the 15x50 is redundant. This assumes you are willing to lean/sit to use the 18x50. The 18x50 is sometimes on sale for USD 1000 as well (more often USD 1100...1200). Patience?

 

AFAIK no rumors. The new/small Canon binos probably share a lot of parts with compact cameras? For this reason I am not expecting a new big model, but if one arrives I won't complain. Even though I doubt it would be very affordable, as price development of large lenses has shown. USD 1000 for a 50mm made in Japan bino is not a bad price. Add 18x plus IS and IMO it becomes a bargain. Then again China does keep innovating...



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Posted 30 May 2020 - 06:32 AM

One of my OCD habits is a daily check of B&H prices of Canon IS binoculars.  I've noted that the 15x50 IS model has been at $999.00 for quite some time, with occasional dips down to $950 or so.

 

Have you seen it for less than that at B&H?

 

I agree with ihf that a grand for a well-made 50mm Japanese-made bino isn't a bad price, and the 10x42 and 18x50 are now at $1400.


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Posted 30 May 2020 - 09:33 AM

Larger ISs are probably in the pipeline --somewhere, but at what price?

Over the past few years I have seen the zeiss 20x60 IS go from $6000 to 9000.

Makes that 15x50 seem like a real bargain at $1000.

 

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Posted 30 May 2020 - 09:51 AM

Canon IS 18x56-60, or 20x60 would be interesting upgrade for me.



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Posted 30 May 2020 - 10:09 AM

I don't think Canon could be accused of overpricing any of it's image stabilised binoculars.

 

All things considered, their typical respective brand new prices have always compared quite favourably with any other binoculars of comparable quality and size.

 

It's just a matter of whether or not one actually likes them enough to buy.

 

I happen not to, but that is just a very personal choice.

 

There are certainly countless very happy owners of them, but more so for astronomy use than birdwatching for some reason.

 

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 04:18 AM

..............that is just a very personal choice.

There are certainly countless very happy owners of them, but more so for astronomy use than birdwatching for some reason.

 

Kenny

Several years ago, after reading all the praise for the Canons, I got a 12x36.

Good optics, IS worked well, but bulky and not very ergonomic.

My main complaint was the pointing/aiming with the IS --I was always below the bird and had to adjust upwards. 

 

They are good, what they claim to be, worth trying, but just not my personal preference.

 

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 06:53 AM

Something like a 20x60 IS would be the perfect binocular for me...


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Posted 31 May 2020 - 09:12 AM

I am not the expert that many are on this board. But, I can’t imagine buying any binocular that I would use handheld without IS. In my opinion, the 10x4L blows away any other handheld bino in the world. What good is a $3000 alpha bino, if you can’t hold it steady? Of course, I tripod chances that. But, I never use tripods.

Just my opinion.
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Posted 31 May 2020 - 09:43 AM

Hello I Have Canon 12x36 IS II is a good compromesso, the best is canon 10x42L but is very expansive. For me the stabilizzation is fondamental and don't think abaut bino without. If come back I shop Canon 10x42L, for me the best like quality and friendly use at human price.


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Posted 31 May 2020 - 12:45 PM

Something like a 20x60 IS would be the perfect binocular for me...

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I do not know. I have always been interested in these,

but aside from price there is the 3.5# weight,

the many year old technology,

worry about damage and cost/time of repairs,

and some questions on how exactly I would use them to compliment my other optics.

 

lucky for me the cost has always been out of reach

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Posted 31 May 2020 - 01:11 PM

The most common use cases for binos are hunting and birding. I am assuming that most hunting in the US doesn't happen from a stand where mounting a bino would be more feasible? Now some bird watching seems less oportunistic and could be done from the same position each time over water bodies etc. Also mounting a bino horizontally on a tripod is much less hassle than pointing steep up (which needs a p-mount). I assume this is why birders may prefer to sink their money into glass and not electronics? Shooters seem to prefer mounted scopes. People on boarts/moving vehicles seem to prefer stronger stabilization (Fuji). At least I hope the active hunters are somewhat on our side here and contribute to the Canon-style image stabilization market. Then again Zeiss 20x60 (marketed to hunters) seems to works best in a horizontal position.


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Posted 31 May 2020 - 02:19 PM

I am a duck hunter. I particularly like my Canon 10x42L IS binoculars for looking at ducks in flight several blinds away from me. The IS allows me to easily identify which type are in the air. I have tried this with non stabilized, it is next to impossible to hold the binos steady enough on a moving target.

I have tried all the tricks with non stabilized

Low mag
Using my hat as a brace
Weird hand positions

None of them work for me

I would rather not even own a bino if it wasn’t stabilized
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Posted 31 May 2020 - 02:49 PM

I am a duck hunter. I particularly like my Canon 10x42L IS binoculars for looking at ducks in flight several blinds away from me. The IS allows me to easily identify which type are in the air. I have tried this with non stabilized, it is next to impossible to hold the binos steady enough on a moving target.

I have tried all the tricks with non stabilized

Low mag
Using my hat as a brace
Weird hand positions

None of them work for me

I would rather not even own a bino if it wasn’t stabilized

Excellent explanation, I tottaly understan what you say!

I also played with observing birds, and many other moving objects.

 

All is so MUCH easier with IS on.

 

One big reason I also dont want part with my Canon IS binocular-best multipurpose binoculars I ever experienced!


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Posted 01 June 2020 - 01:52 PM

BTW, checked the B&H price today, increased to $1,059 from $999.



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Posted 01 June 2020 - 02:16 PM

Wi birding being the driving market and compact roof prisms being what they are expecting to see, I am not confident that there is the market for new larger stabilised binoculars as they’d be heavy enough to need a tripod mount and thus negate the need for stabilisation. Also the 18x50IS was the only time I have ever seen anyone else using a stabiliised bolinocilar at a birding location, we are in the minority, but with the knowledge that we get better views!

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 09:13 AM

A few of us birders use Canon IS binoculars, but I'm not carrying the 15x50 or 18x50 around for long. I used the Canon 12x36 IS II as my main birding binocular for almost 16 years and have been using the 12x32 IS for more than a year now. 

 

I have not encountered other birders on local field trips with IS binoculars, but have had several friends buy a pair after trying mine.

 

Canons lack of marketing to the birding crowd puzzles me. The IS views at 10 or 12 power certainly reveal more detail and allow easier identifications than traditional handheld models. As I've gotten older its benefits have only increased. 

 

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Posted 12 October 2020 - 05:58 AM

I was browsing birdforum.net and saw this post mentioning two new stabilized binoculars. The Kite Optics APC 12x42 and 16x42.

 

They have 42mm objectives, which is the largest aperture I've seen in recently released IS binoculars. Of course, the Canon 15/18x50s do still have bigger apertures, but 42mm is a step in the right direction. They weigh only 0.72kg as well, which is big improvement over the 1.11kg of the Canon 10x42 IS. It remains to be seen if the optical quality and stabilization are as good though.

 

Based on the design of the battery covers, focusing knob, and power switch, my guess is that these are a Kamakura design internally with a custom shell by the OEM. This brings the possibility that we'll see other brands adopt the design as well in the near future.


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Posted 12 October 2020 - 06:12 AM

I really would like to see a 20x60 IS or at least a 18x55 IS in the future ...

20 years of development should help to keep the weight and bulkyness low.


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Posted 12 October 2020 - 02:14 PM

I have a $4000 PVS14 Gen III night vision monocular.  Night is literally turned to day. 

 

I have a $5000 FLIR thermal scanner.  I can see a field mouse 100 yards away in pitch black. 

 

And, I have the 10X40L IS Canon binoculars. 

 

Out of those three, the Canon binoculars bring me the most joy.  IS is that good. 


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