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#1 Davidrs132

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:31 PM

Are these the same as the Nikon 18x70 astroluxe?
I notice they have different type of rubber eye cups.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/123861341092

I’ve been looking at adding bigger set of binos to complement my fujinon 10x50 fmt-sx. Something with more aperture but that’s also “legendary” status like the fujinon. I’ve been spoiled and don’t want to settle for less.

My research so far has led me all over the place. The first stop was the fujinon 16x70 for obvious reasons. Then the oberwerk 25x100IF and on to the BT100 (then I realized I would need to spend hundreds on a mount/Tripod). To the oberwerk ultra/Orion resolux 15x70 and then apm/Lunt 16x70ED. And then finally the Nikon 18x70, which apparently are the fujinon 10x50’s of 70mm binoculars (maybe not in edge sharpness, but in overall wow factor).

What I’ve found so far (mostly through cloudy nights searches):

-Fujinon 16x70 (not enough eye relief, narrower FOV than

the Nikon, best edge sharpness)

-BA8 15x70 ultra/resolux (almost as good as the fujinon, not enough eye relief, collumation/QC issues)

-apm/Lunt 16x70ED (more rye relief than fujinon 16x70/BA8, almost as sharp as the fujinon, one review mentioned FOV between left and right being slightly misaligned)

-oberwerk 25x100 (lower quality optics than BA8, need heavier duty mount/tripod).

-BT100 (most expensive, need to get super heavy duty mount/Tripod).

-Nikon 18x70 astroluxe (not as sharp at the edges as fujinon, wider FOV, apparently magical, more expensive than the BT100, but can be used on my current tripod, also the price of the binoculars in the link above aren’t too far off from a new set of Fujinon’s).

My current tripod is just a vintage aluminum tripod with a spring loaded head. Hukuba ph-g4. Its acceptable with the fujinon 10x50 and would be fine with a pair of 15x70’s, but would like to eventually get something with a parallelogram Mount. I’m not sure I can see myself getting the super heavy duty gear needed for the BT100$$.
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Edited by Davidrs132, 02 June 2020 - 05:07 PM.


#2 ArsMachina

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:43 PM

At least they are looking like Astoluxes.

 

I had an 18x70 Astrolux

I quickly sold it when I got my APM 25x100 ED:

Way better optical quality

30mm more aperture (and you see that difference!)

Still lightweight and easy to mount, same tripod and head as I used for the Astrolux.

 

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 04:56 PM

Yes, they are Astroluxes, the red ring indicates this. It must be said that Nikon are Nikon are notoriously difficult and confusing with there nomenclature of their binoculars esp.with international vs domestic names. Just make sure you buy from a reputable dealer with the appropriate warranties.

Edited by chris charen, 02 June 2020 - 05:00 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2020 - 05:03 PM

Missed this one by a few days
https://astromart.co...and-ua-unimount

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 05:04 PM

Here's a recent thread on the Oberwerk 20X65 ED Deluxe.

 

Nice glass.

 

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#6 Davidrs132

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Posted 02 June 2020 - 11:43 PM

Missed this one by a few days
https://astromart.co...and-ua-unimount

****, that’s a bummer. It’s in the past now ‍♂

Those do have the same eye cups as the eBay pair from japan.

 

I did find this archived thread.

https://www.cloudyni...e-xl-binocular/

 

 

Yes, they are Astroluxes, the red ring indicates this. It must be said that Nikon are Nikon are notoriously difficult and confusing with there nomenclature of their binoculars esp.with international vs domestic names. Just make sure you buy from a reputable dealer with the appropriate warranties.

 

 

Yea, the seller is just a random seller in Japan who seems to sell various things from various Japanese brands.

 

Doesnt japan put out superior quality versions of their products for their domestic market vs US market?



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Posted 03 June 2020 - 04:50 PM

'Doesnt japan put out superior quality versions of their products for their domestic market vs US market?'

There is no real evidence to support this except anecdotal evidence. Nikon have and do produce optics only for their domestic market but I doubt this is superior to what they export. You can still get 'domestic' Nikon products via the grey market.
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Posted 07 June 2020 - 12:33 PM

The Nikon Astroluxe model is the SP, yours is Nikon T1.

 

See also https://www.cloudyni...sp-wp-red-ring/

The SP is on the button with the red ring.

 

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Edited by j.gardavsky, 08 June 2020 - 11:39 AM.

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#9 The Ardent

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Posted 07 June 2020 - 01:08 PM

I own the Fujinon 10x50 and mounted 82mm with angled prism.

I have not tried the Nikon 18x70 , but based on my experience with the Nikon 7x50 and 10x70, they must be excellent.

However their weakness is the straight-thru viewing for astronomy.

So I advise looking at this : https://oberwerk.com...ular-telescope/

I can attest that angled binoculars are quite useful for astronomy. The smaller ones are light and portable.


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