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#1 delorehal

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:39 AM

It may have already been written here but in case : I saw on eBay John Pons Zeiss 10" for sale at an astronomical price of 100 k

The pics provided show how big a 10" refractor is, the mount is Huuuge

 

If only I had the money and the place too :-)



#2 luxo II

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:46 AM

Link. pul-lease !

 

Not surprised at the price. APM have a much smaller Zeiss planetarium scope, complete - for sale for 79,000 euros.


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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:52 AM

Yes I know that, but it is still for sale since a long time

 

Sorry for the link, I Don't have access to eBay right now, but you can easily found it on eBay.com (at least that was the case yesterday)

 

It is sold with a giant "chromacor" made by Roland Christen

Even the finder is an AS Zeiss refractor



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:53 AM

https://www.ebay.com...1cAAOSwZrRe8okv



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:57 AM

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:58 AM

Now that's a Super Planetary!

 

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#7 RalphMeisterTigerMan

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 09:05 AM

Yikes! Nice, but...please don't tell me that he has to carry it in and out each time he wants to view? Perhaps that it the reason that it's being sold. This is the kind of scope that has to be permanently mounted in a observatory.

 

If only....

Clear skies!

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 09:12 AM

Yikes! Nice, but...please don't tell me that he has to carry it in and out each time he wants to view? Perhaps that it the reason that it's being sold. This is the kind of scope that has to be permanently mounted in a observatory.

 

If only....

Clear skies!

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Jon I think has gotten to the age where he has a hard time each time he sets the scope up  when  he wants to use it.  But that is what he has done for years.  


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Posted 25 June 2020 - 09:15 AM

A classic by a classic ATM'er!



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 06:25 PM

Not fitting in the Vette or my house.



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 07:17 PM

To buy that scope I would have to sell off some stocks.  Then I would have to build a garage to put it in of course with a roll off roof.   I would also rent a benz sprinter to go pick it up.  Would be a fun trip out to CA.   Visit some relatives while I am there.  I could dream being at the controls of that scope all day long.


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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:01 PM

Sigh... it's about the size of the 9" Cooke I used as a student. Oh... memories...



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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:01 PM

Okay, so I'm assuming that he somehow got his hands on a Zeiss 10" achromat objective and then built the tube assembly, mount and all else? Where did he score a 10" Zeiss objective, I mean it's not like you're going to find one at a yard sale or in someone's basement or in a corner of a garage. Would the lens cell be made of brass by any chance?

 

I sure would love to have a look at Mars this fall with this baby!

 

Clear skies and boy would it be nice to have the funds not only to purchase but also to build an observatory and house specifically for it!

 

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:20 PM

My hats off to Mr. Pons for dreaming about such a telescope and making it happen.

It looks to me like he knew what was the best, and he went ahead and built it with 

nothing but the best.

 

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 08:28 PM

My hats off to Mr. Pons for dreaming about such a telescope and making it happen.

It looks to me like he knew what was the best, and he went ahead and built it with 

nothing but the best.

 

Robert

I read many good things about Pons.  He is a guy who dreamed big and made it happen.  He is an inspiration to us all.   What a craftsman. 


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Posted 25 June 2020 - 10:35 PM

Zeiss 10in ... what dreams are made of !!



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Posted 26 June 2020 - 05:35 AM

My hats off to Mr. Pons for dreaming about such a telescope and making it happen.

It looks to me like he knew what was the best, and he went ahead and built it with 

nothing but the best.

 

Robert

You have to be well off to do it.



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Posted 26 June 2020 - 07:58 AM

My hats off to Mr. Pons for dreaming about such a telescope and making it happen.

It looks to me like he knew what was the best, and he went ahead and built it with 

nothing but the best.

 

Robert

You look hard for the great deals on gear like this you will find them.   I bet a 10" zeiss lens is a lot cheaper than buying a 10" zeiss refractor ready to go.   If you have the skill and can source all the parts for a reasonable cost you can build a scope like this for a lot less than $100,000. I bet some have spent more than that on scopes over the last 40 years and have nothing to show for it.  


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 08:07 AM

Grab and go



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Posted 26 June 2020 - 09:48 AM

Yes, definitely it John Pons telescope. My question is, Was that the Zeiss that originally belonged to W.F. 'Shelley' Stoody of Whittier, CA? 

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 11:09 AM

Yes, definitely it John Pons telescope. My question is, Was that the Zeiss that originally belonged to W.F. 'Shelley' Stoody of Whittier, CA? 

Lew Chilton would know.  Don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that it is now the guide scope on the Griffith 12".  but I could just be repeating something I thought I heard years ago, and morphed it with a rumor and my overripe imagination.  So wait for Lew to comment (or do a search of the archives, perhaps?).

 

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 11:13 AM

Lew Chilton would know.  Don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that it is now the guide scope on the Griffith 12".  but I could just be repeating something I thought I heard years ago, and morphed it with a rumor and my overripe imagination.  So wait for Lew to comment (or do a search of the archives, perhaps?).

 

-Tim.

 

"I thought I knew a man who thought he knew a man who knew what's...  ...going on.  I was mistaken" -  CSNY

I think you are correct Tim.  I read the same thing when I was researching the Shelley telescope.

 

https://www.cloudyni...oody-telescope/


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 11:54 AM

It saddens me to see someone have to part with something that was such significant part of his life. Indeed, he looks like a man who does not want to part with an old friend. He has my sympathy if so. Hopefully he is otherwise in good health. Hats off to a man who could preserve such a piece of history in such beautiful condition! Hopefully the scope will go to where it can be used as often as possible.


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 03:12 PM

I think you are correct Tim.  I read the same thing when I was researching the Shelley telescope.

 

https://www.cloudyni...oody-telescope/

According to Clint Whitman in that thread:

"To my knowledge the Guy looking in the scope is Shelly Stoody, Must have been buddies with Ed Turner who built the Zeiss Mobile. This scope is now the Guide scope on the 12" At Griffith Observatory... Do I have this right?"

 

He is referring to the same picture I posted.


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Posted 26 June 2020 - 03:26 PM

And to supplement information in the Stoody Scope thread, here's an interesting biography I turned up from a 2013 issue of the Carbon Canyon Chronicle:

 

http://carboncanyonc...story-from.html

 

And check this out as well:

 

https://aerospacecue...ey-stoody/4484/

 

And from Griffith Observatory:

 

"The addition of a 9½-inch Zeiss telescope in 1955, previously mounted for more than two decades on the roof of the car of Whittier amateur astronomer Shelly Stoody, aided Roques in the precise aiming and guiding needed for his photoelectric work."

 

http://www.griffitho...pe_history.html

 

So apparently the scope offered for sale on eBay by Mr. Pons is not the same As Stoody's giant car scope. So there must be more than one ~10" scope in Southern California's LA area. 
 

As confirmed here:

 

https://www.cloudyni...arty/?p=1538655


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