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Moon, Jupiter, Saturn July 1, 2020 - more sharpness?

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#1 astroflak88

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 09:57 AM

Here's my 1st time imaging. I used pipp, autostakkert, and registax. Anyone have any other software I can use to make Jupiter and saturn sharper? Or are my photos pretty typical in terms of quality?8192c26becd85f2c93a81fcf0ea8a8ac.jpg0df201b29c14372f1e8cf238f5ed069c.jpg7ebc6729380bced412ca827f110b9112.jpg3c73f4077cffaaa6fc9312764013e0e2.jpg

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 09:58 AM

very nice shots , love the moon . thanks .



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 10:00 AM

Jupiter could be a bit fuzzy due to seeing conditions.  It's still pretty low on the horizon. 



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 10:32 AM

Good job! What camera are you using? Typically you want to be capturing as many frames per second as possible. For Jupiter try a 3 minute recording and see if you can capture above 100 fps. In Registax make sure you use the RGB align function to compensate for the atmospheric diffraction as the planets look very low on the horizon for you. 



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 11:35 AM

I am using the ASI385mc. I didn't go too long with jupiter, I used 1000 frames of photos and took the best 80 percent in PIPP and then the best 80 percent in autostakkert. One thing I didn't do is that RGB align function you're talking about in Registax. In Registax, I only did the Histogram and the sharpening. I am new to all of this, I watched a youtube video to guide me in making these photos.


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Posted 02 July 2020 - 03:42 PM

I am using the ASI385mc. I didn't go too long with jupiter, I used 1000 frames of photos and took the best 80 percent in PIPP and then the best 80 percent in autostakkert. One thing I didn't do is that RGB align function you're talking about in Registax. In Registax, I only did the Histogram and the sharpening. I am new to all of this, I watched a youtube video to guide me in making these photos.

You need to record many more frames than that, and only need to use the best twenty or thirty, may fifty percent of those. I record Jupiter at over 100 fps with a ZWO 290MC one-shot color camera, and can get 20,000 frames in about three minutes. PIPP is not necessary if your video is good quality, it has its uses though in other instances. Autostakert and the Registax wavelets are sufficient to process video of the planets, followed by your usual photo editing software for post processing. Also, better to sharpen too little than too much. Below is an example of what you should be able to achieve with your camera. The seeing during the recording of the video data was at best average, poor seeing will however render your images blurry even after heavy sharpening.

 

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Posted 02 July 2020 - 03:47 PM

Looks like poor seeing is the issue with Jupiter. That tile rooftop that you are looking over certainly doesn't help.


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Posted 02 July 2020 - 04:58 PM

I am using the ASI385mc. I didn't go too long with jupiter, I used 1000 frames of photos and took the best 80 percent in PIPP and then the best 80 percent in autostakkert. One thing I didn't do is that RGB align function you're talking about in Registax. In Registax, I only did the Histogram and the sharpening. I am new to all of this, I watched a youtube video to guide me in making these photos.

Pretty good job just starting out if you ask me...I'll pile on with poor seeing, but your moon image got me thinking.  It's a great shot, but it's a little pink.  Not sure if you did that to bring out the surface features, or...it's possibly IR?  Was you IR cut filter installed?  If not, that may explain some of the fuzziness on Jupiter.  This may seem like a moronic suggestion, but take it from a moron who has done exactly that...twice ;) 



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 07:18 PM

The moon image i created, i just increased the saturation to make it look like that. That's all. I'm going to try to image again tonight. I used a 5x powermate to make that jupiter image. I also have a 2x and 4x powermate. Have any of you tried combining 2 barlows when imaging? What if i tried to use a 2x and 4x together ? So that would be a 8x and perhaps I can see more detail?



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 08:01 PM

Your Moon image would benefit from less sharpening, not more.  The sharpening is already creating a coarse look.  Jupiter doesn't have the same problem, however.  That image is limited just by the data itself, as others have said.  What is the telescope?  Increasing the barlow power won't help when your image is limited by factors unrelated to the optics.  In fact, you don't want to image at an f-ratio much above 5x the pixel pitch of your camera.  So, a 4um pixel pitch would be imaged at f/20, but going above this will just create a larger, blurrier version of the same image, with no additional details.  So it really depends on the telescope and camera as to what barlow or powermate to use.  It's not simply a case where more magnification is better.  



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Posted 02 July 2020 - 10:58 PM

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