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Next Eyepiece; 13mm DeLite or 12.5mm Morpheus?

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#1 KTAZ

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Posted 03 July 2020 - 05:25 PM

Considering my next eyepiece investment. I'm looking at the weakness in my medium power range, currently occupied by an Meade Japan 13.8mm Series 4000 SWA 68deg. Don't get me wrong; it is a very nice eyepiece, but the eye relief is a bit short as my eyes get older.

 

From the research I've done, I narrowed my choice down to either the TV 13mm DeLite or the 12.5mm Morpheous, both are priced pretty competitively (I wish I'd seen that Morpheus sale earlier in the year) around $240-$250.

 

Then again, there is the ES 14mm 82deg for a hundred dollars less...

 

What say you? Let the banter begin!


Edited by KTAZ, 03 July 2020 - 05:33 PM.


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 05:56 PM

Looking for longer eye relief:

--13mm Delite 62° $256

--12mm Delos 72° $352

--12.5mm Morpheus 76° $239

--12.5mm APM Hi-FW UW eyepiece 84° $299

If you don't use glasses:

--13.5mm Stellarvue Optimus 100° $349

--13mm APM XWA 100° $249

--13mm Nagler Type 6 82°  $321

 

All would be enjoyable.  62° is a lot narrower than the others, but it is one sharp eyepiece with superb contrast.


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 06:37 PM


All would be enjoyable.  62° is a lot narrower than the others, but it is one sharp eyepiece with superb contrast.

As Don pointed out, the 62° is narrow. I have eyepieces from 44° to 102°. The sweet spot, and overall general eyepiece for me would be +70°.


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 08:33 PM

The 13mm DeLite is one of my favorite eyepieces.  Outstanding contrast.  Don't let the 62 deg AFOV scare you away.  It is an excellent eyepiece for all classes of targets.  

 

The 12.5mm Morpheus is also very good.  I prefer the 13mm DeLite.


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Posted 03 July 2020 - 08:33 PM

I have to admit that the prospect of something as wide as 100 degrees seems almost wasted. I've never used one and have reservations on whether I'd like it or not.

 

I do like my 84 degree pieces.



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Posted 03 July 2020 - 08:54 PM

Considering my next eyepiece investment. I'm looking at the weakness in my medium power range, currently occupied by an Meade Japan 13.8mm Series 4000 SWA 68deg. Don't get me wrong; it is a very nice eyepiece, but the eye relief is a bit short as my eyes get older.

 

From the research I've done, I narrowed my choice down to either the TV 13mm DeLite or the 12.5mm Morpheous, both are priced pretty competitively (I wish I'd seen that Morpheus sale earlier in the year) around $240-$250.

 

Then again, there is the ES 14mm 82deg for a hundred dollars less...

 

What say you? Let the banter begin!

 

What will be your preferred targets with the eyepiece?

 

If you're going for DSOs, I would favor the wider AFOV and TFOV of the Morph. If you're going for planets/moon, the DeLite will be superb.
 



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Posted 04 July 2020 - 02:57 AM

Considering my next eyepiece investment. I'm looking at the weakness in my medium power range, currently occupied by an Meade Japan 13.8mm Series 4000 SWA 68deg. Don't get me wrong; it is a very nice eyepiece, but the eye relief is a bit short as my eyes get older.

 

From the research I've done, I narrowed my choice down to either the TV 13mm DeLite or the 12.5mm Morpheous, both are priced pretty competitively (I wish I'd seen that Morpheus sale earlier in the year) around $240-$250.

 

Then again, there is the ES 14mm 82deg for a hundred dollars less...

 

What say you? Let the banter begin!

If to use with your C9.25, buy the Morpheus for more TFOV.


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Posted 04 July 2020 - 09:44 AM

It will be a mix of targets. I find that eyepieces in this range, while working very well for the moon and planets (if the seeing isn't great) will always see more time on DSO's. There are just so many more objects to chase, plus I live under Bortle 6 skies, so moonless nights still do reveal lots of good sights.



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Posted 04 July 2020 - 01:23 PM

I have to admit that the prospect of something as wide as 100 degrees seems almost wasted. I've never used one and have reservations on whether I'd like it or not.

 

I do like my 84 degree pieces.

You would really enjoy the Morpheus 12.5. It feels just as wide as my 13T6. Optically, it is almost as good but not quite. The massive eye relief and ease of view makes up for that. In addition it barlows really well.


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Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:07 PM

When I made this decision, it was the 12.5 Morph. Of course, I did make that decision during the introductory sale, so it wasn't nearly as hard a choice as yours. I haven't regretted it, not one bit. 

The good news is you've put yourself in a position where it's not possible to make a bad choice, which isn't a bad position as decisions go. Much preferable to the usual "lesser of two evils" deal that life usually serves up....


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Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:19 PM

It sounds like I have a date with a Morpheus...I'll be watching those classifieds...

 

Thank you all.


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Posted 04 July 2020 - 06:29 PM

Good choice. Nothing wrong going either Morpheus or Delite. If fov was an issue go Morpheus, if weight/size is an issue got Delite. I just had to chose between a pair of 9 mm Morphei and 9 mm Delites. Those Delites most probably won due to size and weight. FOV is not much of an issue, but for longer focal lenght this becomes more important.



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Posted 04 July 2020 - 08:16 PM

It sounds like I have a date with a Morpheus...I'll be watching those classifieds...

 

Thank you all.

Yeah, good choice..   I had the opportunity to try the Morph, APM, Docter, Nag T4 and Ethos side by side.  

I chose the Morph (and Ethos)..   I need +1.5 to see distance which converges the exit pupil, shortening the effective eye relief.

The Morpheus was the only one of the group for me that was usable with glasses.

 

It is a super comfortable eyepiece to use. 


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 12:36 PM

12.5 Morpheus is on order...


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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:23 PM

AND a 14mm Pentax XW.

 

I have to admit, I have become very attached to the twist-up eyecup on the Agena SG series. As such, I had to try these 2 side by side to do a comparison.


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Posted 12 July 2020 - 01:47 PM

I received my 12.5mm Morpheus Friday and got out last night for first light. Unfortunately, we had some high clouds rolling in and out and the early evening seeing was not very stable.

 

Regardless, I did have at least enough time to take a quick look at both Jupiter and Saturn (only about 25 degrees high at the time). I put it to the test against a 14mm Pentax XW and found that the Pentax was not able to reveal the Cassini Division while the Morpheus did. Yeah, the seeing was that bad. It might have just been a break in the seeing,l but the Morpheus seemed to provide better contrast.

 

I also found the Morpheus form factor more to my liking. It feels good in the hand and I can rest my eye against the eyecup while enjoying the full FOV. The Pentax screw-up eyecup does not go very high and I could not do the same.

 

I will be heading for some darker skies next week and will put them both through some additional paces, but I am very pleased with the Morpheus so far.


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