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#1 RogerRZ

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 10:05 AM

I'm looking at one of these, semi locally, it's a 920mm fl model, seller presents it as mint, comes with rings, two speed Moonlite and WO 2" diagonal. I would use this as a quick view visual scope, and treat it to grey zone skies once in a while. Is there anything I should keep an eye out for? He's asking $1400usd for it.

-edit- I once had a TV102 that was a joy to observe with, but a combination of aperture fever and lack of funds had me part ways with it. Would this Vixen provide similar views?

 

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 10:22 AM

If its anything like the Tak FS-102 (and I think the lens is the same or at least the same maker) then it is one sweet scope. I have never heard anything bad about the Vixen.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 10:22 AM

It's generally considered to be one of the finest 4" refractors ever produced, fully on par with Takahashi, so...

 

 

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 10:25 AM

Top-notch Vixens are among the finest refractors; it's highly unlikely that you'll be disappointed. Expect views comparable, at least, to those provided by your TV 102. 


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 11:18 AM

Views likely as good or better than the TV. Build quality will be lower, although this one has a Moonlight so that addresses the biggest complaint about build quality on these older scopes.

You might give this a read: https://www.cloudyni.../#entry10241535

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 12:06 PM

No, no, no.  Don't listen to anyone who's responded to this thread so far.  They are terrible scopes and you should send it to me immediately.  Please provide a tracking number so I can have my family away from the house when it arrives.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 02:23 PM

There is also a Tak FS-102 in the classifies right now for a good price for what is offered



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Posted 15 July 2020 - 02:49 PM

There is also a Tak FS-102 in the classifies right now for a good price for what is offered

Conus only. :-(. The Vixen I'm looking at will be picked up by my neighbour, so no shipping charges, and I'm pretty sure it will be handled with more care than it would in the postal system. I'm just waiting on confirmation that the timing works out for the seller.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 05:27 PM

Conus only. :-(. The Vixen I'm looking at will be picked up by my neighbour, so no shipping charges, and I'm pretty sure it will be handled with more care than it would in the postal system. I'm just waiting on confirmation that the timing works out for the seller.

If the optics are undamaged, clean, no fungus.... then optically it is as good as the FC100DL/FS102..... a nice scope.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 05:42 PM

IMO the Vixen fluorites are fantastic scopes. I have the 80mm and have viewed through the 102. I think  $1400.00 is an excellent price especially when it has a Moonlite focuser.

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#11 RogerRZ

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Posted 15 July 2020 - 09:04 PM

Unless something goes completely pear shaped fromhear to Friday, it looks like it's a done deal! Thanks for all who chimed in.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 09:24 PM

Unless something goes completely pear shaped fromhear to Friday, it looks like it's a done deal! Thanks for all who chimed in.

 

Good. 

 

I've had a 90mm for over 20 years now.  I think there is an extra "perception" of saturation, color, definition I get with mine compared to my  2 excellent Japan mfg late model fpl53 Vixens.  More contrast on solar in white light, granulations are more pronounced.

 

Spend time running down carbons and tight doubles.  Luna will get superb.


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Posted 15 July 2020 - 11:31 PM

I'm looking at one of these, semi locally, it's a 920mm fl model, seller presents it as mint, comes with rings, two speed Moonlite and WO 2" diagonal. I would use this as a quick view visual scope, and treat it to grey zone skies once in a while. Is there anything I should keep an eye out for? He's asking $1400usd for it.

-edit- I once had a TV102 that was a joy to observe with, but a combination of aperture fever and lack of funds had me part ways with it. Would this Vixen provide similar views?

 

Cheers!

At the time it was produced, the Celestron fluorite, they performed better  on planets than some other faster apos of the era.  It, the Tak FS102, all were great.


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#14 RogerRZ

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Posted 16 July 2020 - 04:08 AM

Now I need something to mount it on. The legs on the little Polaris mount are a bit too short. I'd love to find a GM8, or something similar, locally.



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Posted 16 July 2020 - 08:40 AM

Congrats on the scope!

 

I've heard  Vixen/Celestron fluorite scopes are some of the best ever!


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Posted 16 July 2020 - 12:04 PM

Compared my Tasco FL-102S with the new Tak FC-100DZ while the Ganymed transit before two weeks and could not see any difference I would talk about... 

 

Both showed Ganymed with some surface color and structure before the Gas giant - Jupiter with many details in both scopes - after some minutes of comparing I turned the FL-102S to Saturn and from then on only switched between the planets instead of comparing scopes.

 

The Vixen/Celstron/Bresser/Orion/Tasco FL-102S is one of the finest fluorit refractors availible and one of the cheapest too. 

 

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Posted 17 July 2020 - 09:01 AM

The Vixen/Celstron/Bresser/Orion/Tasco FL-102S is one of the finest fluorit refractors availible and one of the cheapest too. 

 

 

Well said.  And here is some empirical evidence to back up your point.  

 

Two different Vixen Fluorites manufactured in different eras.   One is the black Celestron branded OTA @ F/8.8.  The other is the white Orion OTA @ F/9

 

Both excellent with the Orion being a truly exceptional sample.

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Posted 17 July 2020 - 11:58 AM

The scope has been picked up, I should have it in hand early next week. Yay! 


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Posted 17 July 2020 - 08:42 PM

Objective made by Canon-Optron just like the Taks I believe.


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Posted 22 July 2020 - 05:49 PM

The answer to the original question is "yes" (I think). Just took a quick look around last night--amazingly, it was clear, and today I had a look at a sunspot, and the views were surprisingly similar to what I remember from a TV102 I once had. That is to say, pretty darned good.

 

It's a but undermounted on the little Polaris, but there is a Losmandy G8 in the mail right now that should handle it quite nicely...

 

-edit- ps it's every bit as mint as the seller promised. A small mark on the dovetail. That's it...

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Posted 22 July 2020 - 06:43 PM

It's a beautiful scope, and light. I have the 80mm and I love mine.

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Posted 22 July 2020 - 09:07 PM

Great looking scope. Congrats!



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Posted 27 July 2020 - 07:34 PM

Had a half hour or so to take a quick peek at the Moon, and was completely floored. 8mm TV Plossl, with 3x TV Barlow? No problem, and not even a hint of false colour, or image breakdown. I have never had a telescope that could take that much power, with as much ease. Not even close. My Fullum primary, 14" dob could grab a lot of light, but for some reason, I could never bump things up to much over 200x, before thermals ruined the show. Clear sky clock claims "average" seeing. Dunno...
 

I'm at a loss for words. The surface of the Moon had an almost 3D appearance, where I wasn't sure if the craters on it were concave, or convex. 
 

I got my entire cash outlays worth, in one outing...


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Posted 27 July 2020 - 08:22 PM

Now get some binoviewers for it.

 

White light solar will amaze you too.



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Posted 27 July 2020 - 09:22 PM

Nice! I have a Vixen FL-70S and I love it. 


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