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#1 gnowellsct

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:13 PM

I fell for this.  

 

I had to see how they get 47x the resolution out of a normal 40mm.  And 7.5x magnification per mm.

 

https://skortu.com/products/zoom  

 

I'll let y'all know how it works out.   Or not.

 

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:17 PM

I fell for this.  

 

I had to see how they get 47x the resolution out of a normal 40mm.  And 7.5x magnification per mm.

 

https://skortu.com/products/zoom  

 

I'll let y'all know how it works out.   Or not.

 

Greg N

That keeps showing up on my Facebook feed. I keep writing derogatory comments.

 

I'll be looking forward to your report. If you decide you can keep it and part with your current inventory, please let me know. wink.gif

 

Clear skies, Alan

 

(It does have a snappy, Swarovski type logo.)


Edited by Alan French, 26 July 2020 - 02:18 PM.

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:18 PM

Yeah, I've seen this advertised, but I had my doubts. I'm anticipating your report!

 

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:19 PM

It is good to know that the laws of physics and optics have been circumvented- it's been a long time coming- at last I will be able to get Hubble quality images from my Bortle 9 back garden.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:21 PM

Well it  has a luminous flux capacitor, night vision and a gyroscopic tripod. Who could ask for more??


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#6 gnowellsct

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:22 PM

It is good to know that the laws of physics and optics have been circumvented- it's been a long time coming- at last I will be able to get Hubble quality images from my Bortle 9 back garden.

The dilithium quantum energy enhances the intrinsic resolution beyond what is possible using low energy non-quantum glass.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:25 PM

That keeps showing up on my Facebook feed. I keep writing derogatory comments.

 

I'll be looking forward to your report. If you decide you can keep it and part with your current inventory, please let me know. wink.gif

 

Clear skies, Alan

 

(It does have a snappy, Swarovski type logo.)

Same for me.

Aside from the "Resolution" work around for such a small instrument, I'm wondering how the eluded physics on the light decrease with such a high magnification as well as stability (@300X) as I can barely hold 10X Binoculars.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:26 PM

Actually if it gives the normal resolution of a 40mm the view of Saturn should be approximately like what they have pictured in the ad.  I know this because of the expertise I developed viewing at 40mm (81 mm masked down to 40) due to the nutty anti-aperture approaches to astro viewing I learned here.    

 

So that piqued my curiosity.  They hadn't pasted in a Hubble shot of Saturn.  



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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:29 PM

Ad says 40mm, but if you look at a picture of the optic it says 30mm!!!

It also says a FOV of 2.6° @ 300x. That's a whopping 780° AFOV.
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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:31 PM

Invented by a university. As a whole. That's pretty focused on Covid-19 right now


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:33 PM

my guess is that an hour after its delivered, the feds will show up on your doorstep and whisk you away and you will mysteriously disappear from CN.  which will make many of us sad, Greg.

 

sorry to hear that you are going to be busted for trying to acquire forbidden technology....


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:36 PM

Wow! That thing will totally replace my 6" apo!  (if the ad is believed)  I guess a lot of the uninitiated will fall for this (probably $9.95 in reality) contraption.  Too bad the ad can't be taken down.



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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:37 PM

Ad says 40mm, but if you look at a picture of the optic it says 30mm!!!

It also says a FOV of 2.6° @ 300x. That's a whopping 780° AFOV.

There must be a number of sellers offering this. The first one I saw claimed it was 45mm aperture on Facebook, but the website said 40mm. 

 

I would have sprung for it at 45mm.....would have trounced the 10x, 11mm spyglass my wife has. ;) 

 

Clear skies, Alan


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:40 PM

There must be a number of sellers offering this. The first one I saw claimed it was 45mm aperture on Facebook, but the website said 40mm. 

 

I would have sprung for it at 45mm.....would have trounced the 10x, 11mm spyglass my wife has. wink.gif

 

Clear skies, Alan

 

Ad says 40mm, but if you look at a picture of the optic it says 30mm!!!

It also says a FOV of 2.6° @ 300x. That's a whopping 780° AFOV.

 

Doesn't the zoom technology imply a diaphragm hence variable aperture?



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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:47 PM

Ad says 40mm, but if you look at a picture of the optic it says 30mm!!!

It also says a FOV of 2.6° @ 300x. That's a whopping 780° AFOV.

And yet there are only 360 degrees to be whopped


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:55 PM

And yet there are only 360 degrees to be whopped

New unit of measurement in America:  1 Whop = 360 degrees

 

Easy to remember, as it is the sound a flat tire makes, once per revolution.

 

And I was just getting used to slugs and mommes!


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 02:57 PM

I'd be wary of it. If the portable rope stopped working you'd be tied to the same observing spot.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 03:15 PM

Greg,

Did you get the Standard or Luxury Package?smile.gif

The add does show pics of scopes with both 30 &40 mm and different FOV specs.

 

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Posted 26 July 2020 - 03:26 PM

I fell for this.  

 

I had to see how they get 47x the resolution out of a normal 40mm.  And 7.5x magnification per mm.

 

https://skortu.com/products/zoom  

 

I'll let y'all know how it works out.   Or not.

 

Greg N

Think your mount will handle it?tongue2.gif


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 04:03 PM

I've never seen Saturn so........Nascar racetrack as in the piccy they have.



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Posted 26 July 2020 - 04:08 PM

And yet there are only 360 degrees to be whopped

And it's shipped from California so it must be good.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 04:38 PM

That thing is incredible! In the strictest sense of the word.

It is able to show (according to the ad images) a surface of the moon never seen from earth, or from any other place in the universe for that matter.

For the price it may be worth investigating just to see if it can be cannibalised. There may be a perfectly useable EP in there somewhere and the objective good for a finder.

Cunningly priced (probably 5 x what it's really worth) so that when found to a piece of carp the duped buyer realises that it's not worth the effort of returning it.

Net result--seller + $30----buyer - $40  



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Posted 26 July 2020 - 04:55 PM

That thing is incredible! In the strictest sense of the word.

It is able to show (according to the ad images) a surface of the moon never seen from earth, or from any other place in the universe for that matter.

For the price it may be worth investigating just to see if it can be cannibalised. There may be a perfectly useable EP in there somewhere and the objective good for a finder.

Cunningly priced (probably 5 x what it's really worth) so that when found to a piece of carp the duped buyer realises that it's not worth the effort of returning it.

Net result--seller + $30----buyer - $40  

sigh2.gif   That's pretty harsh.  Consider the value of this enlightening discussion though.  It probably nets out at a wash.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 05:03 PM

They missed advertising the X-ray capabilities of the scope.  It provided a view of the far side of the Moon in one of the photos.


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Posted 26 July 2020 - 05:37 PM

I was really tempted on this also. The hook was in my mouth. But I reminded myself I was burned once before on a "Facebook" telescope deal, and decided to keep my policy of not buying "Too good to be true" deals from that site. I hope everyone is wrong, and it performs as advertised, and/or you at least get the item pictured, - look forward to your report when you get it. 


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