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#1 Senex Bibax

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:38 AM

This is a story of two disappointed people - myself (potential buyer) and the seller. A few days ago, these showed up on Kijiji, in Gananoque, ON:



"Carl Wetzlar" 20x65 achromatic "Lumenized" binoculars with integral tripod mount. The ad doesn't mention the asking price, but I contacted the seller and she said "$200, but I'm willing to haggle". I said I was interested and we made plans to meet, but since the seller is 150 km from where I live, I was honest up front. I informed her that "Carl Wetzlar" was the house brand of K-Mart Canada, and while the bins she was selling looked like a top-range model, they were a mid-range to a bit above average Japanese brand, and that I would not be likely to offer anything close to $200 for them. I also stated that if they were indeed German 20x65 binoculars made in Wetzlar then I certainly would consider $200 Canadian to be a fair price.




The seller replied that they were quality German binoculars from Wetzlar, and that there was nothing Japanese about them. I sent her some links to posts on this forum and other sources that discussed the "Carl Wetzlar" brand and its provenance - all respectful and emphasizing the above average quality, but confirming their Japanese origin and association with KMart. Since then I have not received any replies to any further messages, nor any acknowledgement of my evidence for their origin.


Hence the two disappointed people - myself because I was genuinely interested in buying the binoculars, and the seller because the item she is selling turned out to be something less valuable than supposed.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 08:13 AM

Money saved for something better, me thinks.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 09:17 AM

I pass these things off as dealing with "Ki-Junk-Ji"

There's a few legit, fair priced deals out there, but far more over-priced items that people "Think" they know about when in fact

it's the classic case of:


"A little bit of knowledge is dangerous".


It's entertaining to surf, but not to seriously buy as that's best left for other sites.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 11:26 AM

Yes, spare your disappointment, Senex.


There was definitely nothing "above average" about the Carl Wetzlar binoculars I've seen.


"Well below average" would be a more accurate summary.

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#5 Rich V.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 02:29 PM

I like the "Airforce grade" designation.   lol.gif


Here's a proper 20x65 that will be enjoyable for years to come for astronomy and daytime use:




Not purported to be from "Wetzlar" though, but Kunming instead...



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Posted 03 August 2020 - 08:35 PM

^^^ "good in fog" too. Sure kicks the you-know-what out of my Leicas. :-)

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