I agree with you on the astro aspects. LR just doesn't seem like the right tool. For bright objects I could probably get by, but for these dim DSOs, StarTools worked a lot better. I'm very familiar with LR and wish it did work better for astro. I actually have Photoshop, too, as part of my Adobe package, but I never really bothered to learn it. I did mess with it a bit with this Veil image, but I'm finding I like StarTools better. It seems PS needs a lot of plugins to work well for astro. I'm sure it can be done manually, but I'm no PS guru.

Veil Nebula
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Posted 15 August 2020 - 01:43 PM
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Posted 16 August 2020 - 09:09 PM
LOL, don't even get me started about the DPR forums. I've gotten into quite a few "lively" arguments over there. Those forums can turn into a real circus
I've found the DPR Astro forum generally supportive of beginning astrophotographers. They're less likely to get sliced-n-diced there than here, particularly true when one is using nonstandard equipment (i.e. not Canon or Nikon). Also, I like nightscape photography, which gets more attention there.
As for your Veil photo, I think it's remarkable you got such a good image of it from the city. Just exposing longer should get you closer to your goal.
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Posted 16 August 2020 - 10:57 PM
I've found the DPR Astro forum generally supportive of beginning astrophotographers. They're less likely to get sliced-n-diced there than here, particularly true when one is using nonstandard equipment (i.e. not Canon or Nikon). Also, I like nightscape photography, which gets more attention there.
As for your Veil photo, I think it's remarkable you got such a good image of it from the city. Just exposing longer should get you closer to your goal.
Thanks. Yeah, I think certain sections of the forums over on DPR are more civil than others =)
I will try longer integration times and see how it goes, but I'll probably practice on easier targets to get my feet wet. Not knowing a lot about AP, I think I was expecting too much from such a short total exposure. Plus, I didn't realize that so much work went into post-processing. I would say I'm a competent amateur photog, and am good at editing in LR to get pleasing results, but man, this AP stuff is a whole new world.
I shot Cassiopeia the other night (20s x 40) and here's what I got with StarTools. I added the star spikes with a PS plugin, which I suppose was "cheating", but without them, it's very difficult to tell what the image is.
https://www.flickr.c...eposted-public/
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Posted 16 August 2020 - 11:34 PM
I'd call your Cassiopeia quite respectable. Did you do it from in town? In town using regular (unmodified) camera equipment I find star clusters easier than nebulae or galaxies and reserve the latter two for dark skies.
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Posted 16 August 2020 - 11:43 PM
Thanks! Yep, just from my backyard. I'm in a Cleveland, OH suburb, so the skies are pretty light. I can't see the Milky Way at all, but I did notice the Pleiades last night, and I could count all seven "sisters" with the naked eye, but just barely. On top of the regular light pollution, I have a neighbor in the house behind me that has the most obnoxious backyard light I've seen. It lights up the whole back of his house in a bright bluish/white light, and even lights up the houses next to him. He seems to have it on at random times. It's ridiculous. I'm going to take a picture and post it next time I notice it on