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#1 Lucullus

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 12:49 PM

I can't help to have the impression that many nowadays refractors have a somewhat fancy, sometimes even trendy, but mostly more-than-simple look. But I like the old plain-simple style, best represented by old white Vixen refractors with the green-gray focusers and mounts etc. which look spartan, unsophisticated, and unagitated. Not like some glittering or flashy red or blue scopes doah.gif in some production lines nowadays.

Maybe you know what I mean.

 

Unfortunately, I only know some refractors and brands of that time and only from images.

 

This is the chance to present us your un-sophisticated 1980 to mid1990 or pre-1999 refractors.

 

Now I am excited.



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Posted 08 September 2020 - 12:54 PM

You mean something like this? wink.gif

 

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Actually bought new in 2001, but the model was available earlier, though I don't know exactly when it was introduced.

 

This one, however, is most certainly from 1989:

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:10 PM

1980s Celestron (Vixen) SPC-102 OTA + Mizar Super Polaris:

 

C102 - First Setup S03 (Mizar - FULL Left Side).jpg C102 - First Setup S01 (Mizar - FULL Right Side).jpg

 

1990s Meade Model 390 OTA + Mizar Super Polaris:

 

Meade 390 S23 - Cradle (Mizar SP LS LUl).jpg Meade 390 S21 - Cradle (Mizar SP RS LUl).jpg

 

I bought both of these abused & neglected orphans to share with the public -- pretty sure they won't be disappointed with the views!!


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:16 PM

My Celestron C100E from 1984.

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:23 PM

I can't help to have the impression that many nowadays refractors have a somewhat fancy, sometimes even trendy, but mostly more-than-simple look. But I like the old plain-simple style, best represented by old white Vixen refractors with the green-gray focusers and mounts etc. which look spartan, unsophisticated, and unagitated. Not like some glittering or flashy red or blue scopes doah.gif in some production lines nowadays.

Maybe you know what I mean.

 

Unfortunately, I only know some refractors and brands of that time and only from images.

 

This is the chance to present us your un-sophisticated 1980 to mid1990 or pre-1999 refractors.

 

Now I am excited.

 

 

What's wrong with red?

 

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Edmund 4 inch f/15 from the early 80's.

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:31 PM

5" Apogee on old CG5 mount, I believe from the mid 90's.

 

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This was/is one of my favorite outreach scopes.

 

This is my Meade 395 on a Starfinder mount:

 

Meade on Starfinder 1.jpg

 

 

 

 


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:36 PM

1984 firstscope 80

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 01:53 PM

1980s Meade 826 on a StarFinder EQ + Pedestal:

 

Meade 826 Restore S01 - Lumicon 125 HF.jpg

 

The Meade (Towa) 6x30 Finder is NOS.  The 80mm F5 Super Finder is a BB special that I made by cannibalizing a 90mm OTA to accept a WWII-era military surplus binocular objective.

 

The Best Improvement:  Lumicon helical focuser with 3" manual-pull / coarse focus tube.  Simple, USA-made, precision machining.

 

[Yeah, I know, it's not a Refractor.  But... most of my scopes are older than the 1980s, and I'm very very happy with this 1980s scope, so I'm sharing the joy!]

 

1983 Takahashi FC-50 F8 Fluorite APO on Kenko KDS II (EQ Mode):

 

Kenko KDS AZ S09 - Meade 884 (Tak FC-50) EQ.jpg


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:07 PM

Good idea for a topic!

 

My Mizar SP-68R appears to match the one in the 1980 catalog.

I really like how the design details sort of fall between what's modern and those of the late 50s-60s

 

Mizar-75.jpg

Mizar-Finder-36.jpg

Mizar-Mount-R62.jpg

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:11 PM

Here's a couple.

 

Vernon Scope Brandon 94mm (1989) on a Unitron #142 mount.

 

TeleVue Genesis (1988) on a Vixen Great Polaris DX mount.

 

V/R

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:15 PM

My only true 1980's scope, not so common here in the UK and a bit lower on the food chain than those posted above. Still a good performer, japanese optics which were probably the last before Tasco started buying from Taiwan/Korea etc. I give you the Tasco 6TR-S 50x600mm  (just realized my Telementor is probably 80's but there's one already posted)

 

6tr S
6tr S1


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:23 PM

Good idea for a topic!

 

My Mizar SP-68R appears to match the one in the 1980 catalog.

I really like how the design details sort of fall between what's modern and those of the late 50s-60s

 

attachicon.gifMizar-75.jpg

attachicon.gifMizar-Finder-36.jpg

attachicon.gifMizar-Mount-R62.jpg

attachicon.gifMizar-Tray-55.jpg

attachicon.gifMizar-68.jpg

Could Mizar build 'em, or what?  Honestly, IDK that I was aware of any Mizar scopes during the 1980s -- had no idea back then that they made a lot of the blue tube stuff for Meade, either.

 

Beautiful restore, Chris!!


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:30 PM

Could Mizar build 'em, or what?  Honestly, IDK that I was aware of any Mizar scopes during the 1980s -- had no idea back then that they made a lot of the blue tube stuff for Meade, either.

 

Beautiful restore, Chris!!

Yes they did, and thanks!

 

BTW, with the Classic Reflector thread running at the same time, I think your Meade 826 (in post# 8) got posted in the wrong thread. lol.gif  

 

Just noticed that you did it on purpose. wink.gif


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 02:34 PM

Yes they did, and thanks!

 

BTW, with the Classic Reflector thread running at the same time, I think your Meade 826 (in post# 8) got posted in the wrong thread. lol.gif  

 

Just noticed that you knew. wink.gif

Things happen, when I'm working from home...  (Been loading & configuring a half-dozen iPads while causing chaos on CN.)

 

I really like how the design details sort of fall between what's modern and those of the late 50s-60s

 

Me, too.  But, why in the name of all that's holy did Mizar, TAK, and some others stick with tangent-arm DEC gearing?  Vixen Polaris had 360* on both axes -- shoot!  My 1958 Goto did, too...

 

I've become a Mizar Fan, and the style, design, & build quality of yours...  Wow!


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 03:28 PM

 

why in the name of all that's holy did Mizar, TAK, and some others stick with tangent-arm DEC gearing?  Vixen Polaris had 360* on both axes -- shoot!  My 1958 Goto did, too...

 

I agree. I really dislike resetting tangents (especially on alt-az's), but I suppose they might argue that usually only small corrections should be needed on on the DEC. shrug.gif



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Posted 08 September 2020 - 04:05 PM

But, why in the name of all that's holy did Mizar, TAK, and some others stick with tangent-arm DEC gearing?  Vixen Polaris had 360* on both axes -- shoot!  My 1958 Goto did, too...

The tangent arm slow motion control was probably cheaper to make, before CNC machining really took off. 

 

 

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 04:13 PM

You mean something like this? wink.gif

 

gallery_55742_4249_1407446610_22734.jpg

 

Actually bought new in 2001, but the model was available earlier, though I don't know exactly when it was introduced.

 

This one, however, is most certainly from 1989:

 

[...]

 

 

Clear skies!
Thomas, Denmark

YEEEESSS!!! Yeeesss! My prrrrecious ...bounce.gifdrool5.gif

Is this the Vixen 80L on a GP above?

I love it!

The very first image I saw of this was on the advertisement page of some introductory astronomy book. I wrote the astro company describing them the book, advertisement page and which telescope I meant and got the reply that what I meant was the Vixen NP-80L.

I recently learned that there was also a Vixen 80M. I am wondering how they perform.

 

1980s Celestron (Vixen) SPC-102 OTA + Mizar Super Polaris:

 

attachicon.gifC102 - First Setup S03 (Mizar - FULL Left Side).jpgattachicon.gifC102 - First Setup S01 (Mizar - FULL Right Side).jpg

 

1990s Meade Model 390 OTA + Mizar Super Polaris:

 

attachicon.gifMeade 390 S23 - Cradle (Mizar SP LS LUl).jpgattachicon.gifMeade 390 S21 - Cradle (Mizar SP RS LUl).jpg

 

I bought both of these abused & neglected orphans to share with the public -- pretty sure they won't be disappointed with the views!!

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your contribution. I especially like your Meade on black mount and simple control. It all has a 1950 flair to me, something from Unitron, yet the mount looks more modern while not yet flashy. I like.
 


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#18 Bomber Bob

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 04:52 PM

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your contribution. I especially like your Meade on black mount and simple control. It all has a 1950 flair to me, something from Unitron, yet the mount looks more modern while not yet flashy. I like.

 

Here's a sobering thought:  Add up my investments in the C-102 + 390 + 826 + EQ Mounts, and...  It's still less than I paid for my Tak FC-50 OTA...  But, it is a Takahashi (though a Tiny Tak).  Is it worth it?  You bet -- sheer perfection (too bad ya gotta pay to get that).


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 05:47 PM

Here's a sobering thought:  Add up my investments in the C-102 + 390 + 826 + EQ Mounts, and...  It's still less than I paid for my Tak FC-50 OTA...  But, it is a Takahashi (though a Tiny Tak).  Is it worth it?  You bet -- sheer perfection (too bad ya gotta pay to get that).

 

Unfortunately, it's all too easy to get caught up in the pursuit of perfection, which for my part, ended with the purchase of a 1979 3.5" Questar Standard. Then again, I still have quite a bit more tied up in the Celestron C100E than I do the Questar, so I don't feel so bad. With the C100E weighing in at about 120 lbs more than the Questar, the Questar wins in portability. Optically, the C100E with its greater aperture and focal length (along with fantastic quality) will easily outperform the Questar, so they have considerable room to live comfortably side-by-side.

 

Bill


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:07 PM

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:12 PM

Here’s mine

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:14 PM

There are some flashy modern scopes but many are simple black and white that are similar to older scopes.

 

The three 80mms are 80s-90s scopes:

 

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This one is not.
 
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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:18 PM

Here’s a couple:

 

1984 Tak FC-76 w/ a 1989 objective

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1989 Tak FCT-125

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Vernonscope Brandon 130

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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:55 PM

1980s Meade 826 on a StarFinder EQ + Pedestal:

 

attachicon.gifMeade 826 Restore S01 - Lumicon 125 HF.jpg

 

The Meade (Towa) 6x30 Finder is NOS.  The 80mm F5 Super Finder is a BB special that I made by cannibalizing a 90mm OTA to accept a WWII-era military surplus binocular objective.

 

The Best Improvement:  Lumicon helical focuser with 3" manual-pull / coarse focus tube.  Simple, USA-made, precision machining.

 

[Yeah, I know, it's not a Refractor.  But... most of my scopes are older than the 1980s, and I'm very very happy with this 1980s scope, so I'm sharing the joy!]

 

1983 Takahashi FC-50 F8 Fluorite APO on Kenko KDS II (EQ Mode):

 

attachicon.gifKenko KDS AZ S09 - Meade 884 (Tak FC-50) EQ.jpg

JW, I’m pretty sure the green trim FC-series Taks like your FC-50 and my FC-60 and FC-76 are from the 90s. The older ones from the 80s have grey trim.


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Posted 08 September 2020 - 06:57 PM

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Unitron brass special


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