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Why no Celestron 100-120mm ED 90 degree binoculars?

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#1 jmclaugh2001

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 09:23 AM

Would be interested in a pair of these at a reasonable price.  May sell off everything and just use them. Wonder why Meade or Celestron doesn't make them? Or did they at one time?

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 09:34 AM

Would be interested in a pair of these at a reasonable price.  May sell off everything and just use them. Wonder why Meade or Celestron doesn't make them? Or did they at one time?

 

John

My two cents:

 

I don't think Celestron or Meade actually make binoculars. They merely put their name on binoculars manufactured by someone else.

 

When you buy the 15x70 Starmasters, you're buying a binocular sold by others as well, Barska for example.

 

To sell 100 mm angled binocular telescopes, they'd be buying them from the same places Orion and others buy them and prices would be similar.

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 10:02 AM

I don't think Celestron could add any value to BT made by KUO in the first place.  Their QC and customer support isn't known to be the best, anyhow.

 

FWIW, if you want a BT on a budget, APM sells an achromat version of their popular 45° and 90° 100mm ED models for around $800. less than the ED offerings.

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 10:28 AM

Hello Rich, if I could ask, where did you find the non-ED APM BT for $800?

 

The APM website lists it for about $1,300 - $1,600.  Is there a U.S. vendor selling them for less?


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Posted 29 September 2020 - 10:39 AM

I actually said "$800. less than the ED offerings".  wink.gif


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Posted 29 September 2020 - 10:53 AM

I actually said "$800. less than the ED offerings".  wink.gif

 

waytogo.gif  :lol:

 

 

 

"You can buy a TeleVue 76 for $425....

 

 

 

.... less than a TeleVue 85.  "

 

Of course a TV 85 costs $2125.  

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 11:24 AM

Along the same lines, I see Omegon sells binoculars that look very similar to the APM.

https://www.omegon.e...Serie=Brightsky

 

So Omegon and APM have these made by the same manufacturer?



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Posted 29 September 2020 - 11:27 AM

Along the same lines, I see Omegon sells binoculars that look very similar to the APM.

https://www.omegon.e...Serie=Brightsky

 

So Omegon and APM have these made by the same manufacturer?

That's KUO, just like so many other binos that appear the same.


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Posted 29 September 2020 - 12:42 PM

Interesting, thanks Rich! I guess each company has the models fine tuned to their linking? For example, in the 100mm/90 models, APM offers:

 

SD-APO ~ $3000

ED-APO ~ $2500

Semi-APO ~ $1450

 

Omegon only offers one model, priced at $1400. I assume this is equivalent to the Semi-Apo

 

If the prices are similar, is there a reason to buy from one company vs. the other. Are you getting the same product?

 

Thanks,

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 01:26 PM

George, I'd say there would be little difference besides the color scheme between the KUO-made APM/Lunt 100mm achromat and the Orion GiantView achromat offering sold here in the USA, for example.  Omegon and TS are European vendors with similar versions as well.  Buy from a company that can give you local USA service, I'd say.

 

https://skygazeoptic...rs?page=2&q=APM

 

https://luntsolarsys...ory/binoculars/

 

https://www.apm-tele...rture-more.html

 

https://www.telescop...160/pc/5/72.uts

 

https://www.omegon.e...Serie=Brightsky

 

https://www.teleskop...-Eyepieces.html

 

Oberwerk sells a line of similar but different BTs but they don't offer an achro version. They are not from Kunming United Optics but from another Kunming, China mfgr; I believe it's Yunnan Optics Co. Ltd. that they partnered with in 2007 to make binos. 

 

https://oberwerk.com...lar-telescopes/

 

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 04:11 PM

Nice list and info!
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Posted 29 September 2020 - 04:59 PM

Hm, my forensic English is a little rusty Mr. Rich, but I'd speculate you wanted a couple of zeros after your "$800."    lol.gif

 

Now Mr. Issacs on the other hand knows how to use an ellipsis.  Only I think it's supposed to be three dots instead of four.   wink.gif


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Posted 30 September 2020 - 09:49 AM

I guess the AltairAstro offering is the same then -

 

https://www.altairas...pieces-17-p.asp

 

Does anybody know why the 90-degree version costs £100 more than the 45-degree version?

 

 

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