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#1 Giorgos

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 01:26 PM

Hi all!

 

I tried vintage style planetary photography with the 6" f/8 newtonian on black and white film (Agfaphoto 400) developed in homebrew Kodak D-11 high contrast developer. The planets were severely overexposed I salvaged them by processing, resizing and cropping the images in gimp. Next time I will bracket! Jupiter is with yellow green filter (4 sec exposure), Saturn 4 sec no filter, Mars 1 sec orange filter. Mars as a matter of fact turned out not bad. The tiny south polar cap is visible!

This is DIFFICULT photography! You have to try it in order to appreciate the work of the old masters!
Thank you in advance for your  kind comments!

 

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 01:44 PM

Here are some pictures taken with a film camera using my 5" Apogee refractor:

 

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The one picture is of the double double.

 

Old master?  How about an old professor?  The previous owner of the 5" Apogee was a retired professor from Latrobe University.  He used this 5" refractor in the classes he taught at Latrobe. 

He is the one who took those photos with a film camera.

 

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 01:44 PM

Ah, the good old days!  Did you employ the "hat trick"?


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Posted 13 October 2020 - 02:17 PM

In addition to the "hat trick", we use to expose on half frames of 35mm film to get more planet exposures per roll.   Here is an example taken in 1973 of Saturn using a 6" f/9 homemade scope and Honeywell Pentax H3 with Tri-X film.

 

Loading a film spool for the developing tank in pitch dark is a fun exercise !

 

 

 

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#5 Giorgos

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 02:26 PM

Ah, the good old days!  Did you employ the "hat trick"?

Of course I did! I used a Praktica VLC3 camera with focusing magnifier and aerial screen. Took also color photos with the Fujica ST605n and my C8 but have to finish the film and have it developed.



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 04:00 PM

Yes, that looks a lot what I got back in the day with an 8" Newt and film.  Brought back some memories.  Yes, planetary on film is really tough sledding.



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Posted 13 October 2020 - 04:55 PM

Here are my best attempts from circa 1974.

 

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Posted 13 October 2020 - 09:24 PM

I have to say Giorgos those are pretty good. Planetary and lunar photography can be difficult more so with deep space objects and comets. Here are some of my early film attempts with my 10" Lx5 SCT.

 

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I would also start out with the moon, here is one I did with Eastman cine film and diafine for the developer. Those were the days!

 

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 06:58 AM

A close up of my eyepiece projection setup.

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Posted 15 October 2020 - 09:37 AM

Excellent photos John! Especially the Jupiter ones! Do you remember any details? F ratio, film, if any filters, developer?
 



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Posted 15 October 2020 - 02:25 PM

Excellent photos John! Especially the Jupiter ones! Do you remember any details? F ratio, film, if any filters, developer?
 

Actually, I have all of that data recorded on the original log sheets, along with the original negatives.  Remembering where those archives are is a little more difficult.  As soon as I have a little free time, I will find those and report out.


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Posted 15 October 2020 - 04:13 PM

Actually, I have all of that data recorded on the original log sheets, along with the original negatives.  Remembering where those archives are is a little more difficult.  As soon as I have a little free time, I will find those and report out.

Looking forward to seeing them! Kindly post!




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