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#1 dries1

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 09:05 PM

How is the performance of the Nikon Action extreme binoculars?  - specific to formats 10X50, 12X50, and 16X50.  Is there one model that stands out from the other three?

 

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 09:19 PM

Summary from reading the archives but not experience: 16x50 is too much magnification. The other two are generally liked. The 12x50 has an aspherical element in the eyepiece which the 10x50 does not. Most seem to go for the 10x50 though as 12x50 harder to hand hold (but I am not sure anybody has compared the views carefully?). Seems like the APMs are heavier, have individual focus and better flatness at twice the price.


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#3 RalphMeisterTigerMan

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 09:26 PM

Having owned more than 20 pairs of binoculars during my 50 years of being an Amateur Astronomer, I can definitely say that my Nikon 12X 50 AE are one of my favourites.

 

Not to heavy and the ergonomics of the design make them easy to use. I especially love the large apparent of view and the eye relief is quite comfortable. The twist up eye-cups make the binos even better to use. 

 

Having owned many 10 X 50's, the extra 2X actually makes a difference. The anti-reflection coatings are also first rate. I find myself on certain nights when I don't feel like setting up the scope, spending hours scanning the night sky picking up all kinds of DSO's. You can't go wrong with the 12 X 50's. They may be a bit more costly than other models but I believe the extra money spent on these is well worth it.

 

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#4 dries1

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Posted 18 October 2020 - 09:28 PM

Thanks Ihf and RalphMeisterTigerMan , I am curious about the 12X50, so I will likely look for some additional reviews on those. 

 

Andy W.


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Posted 19 October 2020 - 06:22 AM

I had a pair some years back in time . From memory I remember them having decent sharpness in 50-60% of the fov . They seemed to be built well or rather better than  their price would indicate . I remember them being difficult to hand hold for any length of time so they ended up on the monopod most times . I gave them to one of my brothers and replaced them with a BA8 10x50 . The BA8 is long gone as well .

These days I find that all I really need is my 15x70 for night viewing and a decent pair easy to hand hold for daytime viewing . Perhaps that might change if I get back into using a big scope again . I always felt a good "finder" bin  paired well with the dob .

 

 

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 06:23 AM

Having owned more than 20 pairs of binoculars during my 50 years of being an Amateur Astronomer, I can definitely say that my Nikon 12X 50 AE are one of my favourites.

 

Not to heavy and the ergonomics of the design make them easy to use. I especially love the large apparent of view and the eye relief is quite comfortable. The twist up eye-cups make the binos even better to use. 

 

Having owned many 10 X 50's, the extra 2X actually makes a difference. The anti-reflection coatings are also first rate. I find myself on certain nights when I don't feel like setting up the scope, spending hours scanning the night sky picking up all kinds of DSO's. You can't go wrong with the 12 X 50's. They may be a bit more costly than other models but I believe the extra money spent on these is well worth it.

 

Clear skies!

RalphMeisterTigerMan

 

AE practically means: "extra quality for a little more". 

Thought I would take the opportunity to promote the idea of a tripod.

At 12x, some can't keep the view steady enough,

but at 12x, even a moderate tripod does a good job.

Even at 7x , I can see more  detail on the tripod, and show the view to a friend.


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Posted 19 October 2020 - 07:23 AM

If you live in a light polluted location, I would go with either the 12x or 16x on a light tripod. I have the 16x and love it for the extra details it brings out, but the 12x would be nice if you want the wider view.



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Posted 19 October 2020 - 09:30 AM

Thanks all for the feedback, I am going to check out the 12X50.

 

Andy W.


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Posted 19 October 2020 - 10:48 AM

I have the 12x and I like them a lot.  Yes, they're heavy, but not unreasonably so.  I get tired quickly if I use them standing, but if I'm sitting in a chair where I can brace my elbows, I can go for hours.  The view is great, definitely bright and wide enough as far as I'm concerned.  The only thing I don't like about them are the eye cups.  They have a hard edge and after a long night they bruise the bridge of my nose a bit.  Currently looking into replacements though, because everything else about them is great.

 

I recently compared them to a pair of 10x42 Nikon HGs.  I figured the same size exit pupil would make it a fair shootout.  If I'm being perfectly honest, yes, the HGs are better binoculars.  But $800 better? Definitely not.  The biggest difference was ease of focus.  The HGs snapped right into pinpoint stars, whereas the AEs took a bit longer.  But with stars, once you've got focus there's no need to fiddle with it the rest of the night.  The HGs were perhaps a bit sharper, but not extremely so.  Certainly not enough that I really noticed a difference if I wasn't able to compare them side by side.  On the moon, the HGs had fewer internal reflections, but the AEs didn't have so many that it seriously got in the way.  However, the difference in magnification cannot be over stated.  Both views were great, but the 12x showed noticeably more and went that much deeper despite the narrower AFOV.  Overall, I found them more satisfying. 

 

IMO I've tried many different binoculars over a period of time and I think the differences between them can be a bit overblown here.  No doubt some are better or more comfortable than others, but it really just comes down to personal preferences.  For someone without $1k+ to spend on a pair of binoculars, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the AE line (and specifically the 12x50) and just be done with it.  Enjoy the view and don't worry about the rest.  Unless you're more interested in optics than astronomy (which is perfectly fine, but be honest about what your pursuit is).


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Posted 19 October 2020 - 11:01 AM

I got to be honest: since I got my pair of AE 10x50, my dobson gets a bit less observing time. It's just so convenient to grab-and-look and the views are incredibly good for a pair of binos in the price range.

 

I suppose the 12x needs some kind of mono- or tripod for most of us. I can hold my 10x steady enough, but it's on the limit.


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Posted 19 October 2020 - 12:32 PM

https://www.cloudyni...es/#entry133774

 

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 02:00 PM

My prefer is 12x50 on tripod for night sky.

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Posted 19 October 2020 - 02:11 PM

Stan, A couple things comes to mind- it's been 16 yrs since that posting was made- and, 2 things might have happened- might Nikon have made changes to the product and Chinese quality control might have improved!!    Regards, Pat



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Posted 19 October 2020 - 08:39 PM

I've read that post a few times on this forum. But just to counterbalance some of the criticisms in that thread - i think there are more Posts on the positives of the 12x50 AE than the negatives - including lots of other positive comments from EdZ.

I think there was a chart somewhere that the 12x50 AE were very high in performance considering the cost....?


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Posted 20 October 2020 - 02:13 AM

I have 12x50 AE.  It actually allows you to look at an object and study it.

12x has better contrast in light polluted skies than 10x.

Better for following Jupiter's moons.

Wide field.

 

I use 12x more than 10x.


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Posted 20 October 2020 - 05:32 AM

Thanks all for the feedback, I am going to check out the 12X50.

 

Andy W.

Andy:

 

What other equipment do you have? Other binoculars, telescopes... Some people can hand hold 12x50s AEs, some can't, probably more can't than can.  Do you have other binoculars you can hand hold comfortably?

 

Jon



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Posted 20 October 2020 - 09:37 AM

A tripod or monopod makes a huge difference. I have a 12x50 that I use on a monopod and it is great for quick looks.



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Posted 20 October 2020 - 11:06 AM

Pentax do a SPWP11 in the 10x50 and 12x50 size, they are pretty nice, smaller FOV  but slightly brighter image, however the Nikons will serve you well, I still have the Action Ex: in the 7x35 size, a dark sky and these when I go camping is all I need, Dave.


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Posted 20 October 2020 - 03:30 PM

I have had the 12 X 50s for many years now, and they are my standard hand-held binoculars. The 12 power makes for a more satisfactory view of the Moon, and still allows wide-field viewing. Also, if you relaxing in a lounger the shakes are not bad at all. The Pleiades and Hyades are beautiful in these, as well as other big open clusters. I have lately been tempted to get the Celestron or Meade ED's, but I resisted since I do not think the views could really be much better than what I have now. 


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Posted 21 October 2020 - 08:39 AM

Andy:

 

What other equipment do you have? Other binoculars, telescopes... Some people can hand hold 12x50s AEs, some can't, probably more can't than can.  Do you have other binoculars you can hand hold comfortably?

 

Jon

Jon,

 

I have other roofs and a few porros, however I looking for specifically a higher mag porro for those cold wet nights, my other porros are not really fog proof. I do quite well with 12X hand held and one 15X56 roof I do fairly well with.

 

Andy W.



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Posted 29 October 2020 - 08:45 AM

Just picked up the Nikon 7245 Action Ex Extreme (10x50). They have the sharpest view of any binocular I own. 

 

Highly recommended.

 

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Posted 29 October 2020 - 10:16 AM

Going for saturation, Cal? ;-)



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Posted 29 October 2020 - 11:11 AM

I thought I accidently clicked on the same thread 3 times!! Nothing like turning 70 and questioning your recall.... Regards, Pat




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