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#1 humma kavula

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Posted 24 October 2020 - 09:28 PM

I have been digging around for a couple of hours for ways to make my dob motorized. Does such kit exists for the orion xt8 plus? i have the ability to create my own but if there is a kit out there ill just skip the diy. thanks

 

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Posted 24 October 2020 - 09:43 PM

why do you want it "motorized"?  Just move the dang thing.  Not that difficult


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Posted 24 October 2020 - 09:55 PM

bill i appreciate it but i have my reasons. thanks anyway. 

 

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#4 Elaine Stachowiak

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Posted 24 October 2020 - 10:01 PM

This is one place to look at. not motorized but lets you know where you at.

 

https://www.astrodev...ing tensioners)

 

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Posted 24 October 2020 - 10:10 PM

There are equitorial platforms out there, but they are big $$$.  You may be able to buy a goto dob for the same price.


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Posted 24 October 2020 - 10:15 PM

i did find this. looks promising. https://astro-gadget...es/dobsondream8

 

thanks for the replies. yes an eq platform would be very sweet but really pricey too lol


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Posted 25 October 2020 - 12:07 AM

i did find this. looks promising. https://astro-gadget...es/dobsondream8

 

thanks for the replies. yes an eq platform would be very sweet but really pricey too lol

This is a decent kit, but it is a push to kit, not a motorized kit. I have an Astro Devices Nexus II kit for an AltAz moon t and it is a fantastic push to system, though, as mentioned above, not motorized. If you want a fully motorized mount, buying a complete GOTO Dob will likely be around the same price as adding encoders kits, and way cheaper than an EQ platform.


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Posted 25 October 2020 - 12:55 AM

The best way to do it (NOT push-to or go-to but with push-to + track) is via Nexus DSC + the encoder package and a equatorial platform from equatorialplatforms.com

That's Tom O

But that's spending a lot more than it's worth. Pushing an 8" Dob around is extremely easy.

Consider an XX12g.



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Posted 25 October 2020 - 04:14 AM

There are equitorial platforms out there, but they are big $$$.  You may be able to buy a goto dob for the same price.

Equatorial platforms range from home made to the Tom O. Dual axis aluminum models.  

 

For someone handy with tools, one can be made for under $100.  

 

Ed Jones will build you one for $425.. 

 

https://opticaleds.c...orms/platforms/

 

Ed is a fixture in the ATM forum, a retired optician and does good work.

 

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 07:57 AM

If you're after GOTO, IMO It's easier to just sell the XT8 and get what you want (the GOTO version by Orion or SW).


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Posted 25 October 2020 - 08:00 AM

awesome advice. its not that its difficult. i just want a project to do and i'd also like to make my scope just that much better because why not?

 

this may be a dumb question but would my xt8 plus fit in the intelliscope (xt8i) goto mount? is that mount sold seperately? i doubt it but figured i'd ask. thanks again.

 

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Posted 25 October 2020 - 08:35 AM

awesome advice. its not that its difficult. i just want a project to do and i'd also like to make my scope just that much better because why not?

 

this may be a dumb question but would my xt8 plus fit in the intelliscope (xt8i) goto mount? is that mount sold seperately? i doubt it but figured i'd ask. thanks again.

 

chris

Not compatible as they use different mountings/Bearings.



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Posted 25 October 2020 - 10:07 AM

gotcha. thanks. ill look into push to setups. 



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Posted 26 October 2020 - 09:21 PM

awesome advice. its not that its difficult. i just want a project to do and i'd also like to make my scope just that much better because why not?

 

this may be a dumb question but would my xt8 plus fit in the intelliscope (xt8i) goto mount? is that mount sold seperately? i doubt it but figured i'd ask. thanks again.

 

 

"fit in the intelliscope (XT8i) goto mount?"...?????

You are confusing scope types, and what each one does!  The Intelliscope XT8i is NOT a GoTo scope!

The intelliscopes, via Encoders on each axis, and a small computerized controller, let you MANUALLY guide the scope to your desired target. 

The XT-G Dobs are GoTo,  in that they use encoders, a controller,  AND motors that automatically move the scope to your target, AND Track it (keep it centered in your Eyepiece).

A "Standard" Dob is just the Tube, carefully balanced on/attached to, a Base /Rocker box, with Altitude and Azimuth Bearings, so that YOU can point it where you wish, with NO electronics whatsoever. 

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Posted 27 October 2020 - 10:38 AM

yup. got it! tyvm



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Posted 27 October 2020 - 11:46 AM

“EZ Push To” is a sensible solution for your dob.

 

https://www.cloudyni...z#entry10606221

 

https://romer-optics...ds-of-dobsonian


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#17 humma kavula

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Posted 27 October 2020 - 11:54 AM

im just going to get me a 10 inch xt10g goto lol its not cheap but hey, ill have a goto now hehe


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Posted 27 October 2020 - 02:15 PM

im just going to get me a 10 inch xt10g goto lol its not cheap but hey, ill have a goto now hehe

That makes more sense than trying to make your XT8 into something it was not designed to be.


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Posted 27 October 2020 - 03:56 PM

yeah thats true. i just thought there was a kit out there somewhere thats plug and play. i see now that its quite hard to do. 



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Posted 28 October 2020 - 06:31 AM

im just going to get me a 10 inch xt10g goto lol its not cheap but hey, ill have a goto now hehe

Great size and easily manageable.  Probably the best option for aperture to portability


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Posted 28 October 2020 - 07:34 AM

im torn between the skywatcher 10 and the xt10g. the sw is almost 300 dollars cheaper than the orion xt10g. is there a reason for this? they are both goto's and both have a 10 inch mirror. whats the catch on the skywatcher?


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Posted 28 October 2020 - 07:42 AM

That makes more sense than trying to make your XT8 into something it was not designed to be.

i know lol i just come from a hobby where things are modified so being almost completely new to this hobby i figured i ask to see if people were actually converting these dobs to goto's on the norm. in other words i didnt want to end up dropping $1500+ on a goto scope when people are going to tell me "hey you could have easily done this and made it a goto" but its now clear that its possible but a pita and not really worth it. im glad i asked! waytogo.gif



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Posted 28 October 2020 - 08:52 AM

The SW is not much cheaper when you factor in the AstroZap Shroud (required) however the collapsiblility  offers a more portable set up plus a detent setting to reach focus with Binoviewers.

The Orion is a solid tube (requires no Shroud) and coes with a better Focuser.

If you're not concerned about size/weight or the BV Detent settings, the Orion is a better option IMO.


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Posted 28 October 2020 - 09:36 AM

im more leaned toward the orion also because i love that brand. quality is awesome compared to other brands. i just heard some people having goto issues. i take that as a grain of salt but its still something to keep in mind. thanks junomike!!




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