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#1 astrocanito

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Posted 17 January 2021 - 12:31 PM

There is no review of this eyepiece on internet and i bought it and found interesting to make a video about it.

Click here to view the article
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Posted 17 January 2021 - 10:16 PM

Hi, thank you for the video. This is something I may add to my collection. The weather sure looks pleasant!!!! Not like here in Wisconsin. Thank you again and clear skies. Tony.


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Posted 18 January 2021 - 06:56 AM

Thanks. Well, i hope the weather gives you more opportunities, the spring is almost here.



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Posted 22 January 2021 - 11:58 AM

Does it have any blackout ?

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Posted 22 January 2021 - 12:18 PM

Does it have any blackout ?

No. I didn't notice any blackout. I was really surprised with the performance of this eyepiece for the price it has. And because of that i've risked and bought another model, an Omegon Panorama II 21mm 100º and has nothing to do with this one (kidney beam effect, coma, etc.) and i've returned it. But this model, the SWA is great. Would buy it again.


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Posted 23 January 2021 - 11:50 AM

Thanks.


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Posted 23 January 2021 - 11:55 AM

Thanks.

you're welcome!



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Posted 23 January 2021 - 09:25 PM

Are any US vendors selling Omegon eyepieces at present?


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Posted 24 January 2021 - 12:09 AM

sure, even amazon has it: 

 

https://www.amazon.c...11464912&sr=8-6


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Posted 24 January 2021 - 06:44 AM

sure, even amazon has it: 

 

https://www.amazon.c...11464912&sr=8-6

I'm afraid that's not the same model. That "Redline" i've never used, i don't know it. I'm aware that Omegon sell products on Amazon or Ebay but i notice that they usually are a bit cheaper through the dealers.

I always prefer to buy directly to a vendor, unfortunately for me to buy from US or an US citizen to buy from Europe largely increase the costs because of shipping and taxes.

I don't know which vendors sell this eyepiece in US. I bought it on Astroshop Europe.



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Posted 26 January 2021 - 01:32 PM

I do understand your wishing to buy through a reputable dealer who will stands by all the products s/he sells. But I have had very food luck with returning items I am not satisfied to Amazon.  In fact their good service is no doubt part of why they are slowly buying out, out or forcing out every other company and becoming a huge monopoly.  I di a little bit inquiry into the difference between the Redline version and regular version of the 32mm that you reviewed.  As far as I can tell the whole "Redline" nonsense is just an attempt to associate the oculars with the old red lines Nikon used to put on their top end "E" models of their binoculars.But I think it is the same eyepiece just changed cosmetically by adding the silly redline to it. I am tempted to get one myself, but my old 32mm Vernon Plossel, while having only a 55 degree field or so is so very sharp that I suspect it would still always get the nod over other 32mms!.But maybe not.  I am still always open to new things and some of the new optical products of this time do put the ones I used in the 60s and 70s to shame!


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Posted 26 January 2021 - 02:23 PM

I do understand your wishing to buy through a reputable dealer who will stands by all the products s/he sells. But I have had very food luck with returning items I am not satisfied to Amazon.  In fact their good service is no doubt part of why they are slowly buying out, out or forcing out every other company and becoming a huge monopoly.  I di a little bit inquiry into the difference between the Redline version and regular version of the 32mm that you reviewed.  As far as I can tell the whole "Redline" nonsense is just an attempt to associate the oculars with the old red lines Nikon used to put on their top end "E" models of their binoculars.But I think it is the same eyepiece just changed cosmetically by adding the silly redline to it. I am tempted to get one myself, but my old 32mm Vernon Plossel, while having only a 55 degree field or so is so very sharp that I suspect it would still always get the nod over other 32mms!.But maybe not.  I am still always open to new things and some of the new optical products of this time do put the ones I used in the 60s and 70s to shame!

Yes could be, i don't know but you got me curious. I place the orders on  Astroshop by phone so the next time i order something i will ask them about that. Please note i am a regular customer and have no affiliation with them but here in Portugal is the best service i have.

I know the eye guard is different, mine has an excellent rubber which was what attracted me (really love it) and forget the redline option, and the redline has a thread to attach a camera but that was useless to me. I also can see they have different eye relief, height and weight and different focal lengths. The redline are all 2" (32mm, 22mm, 17mm, 13mm, 8mm, 5mm) and this one only the 38mm,32mm and 26mm are 2" and the 20mm,15mm and 10mm are 1,25".
The SWA is an inexpensive eyepiece even if one has to pay the shipping and i think worth it. I would prefer a 100º eyepiece but this 70º and what i can get with it made a fair deal to me.

About Amazon people should have no problem with it, the dealers sell on Amazon and Ebay too. If you buy this eyepiece on Amazon you are buying to astroshop in germany through Amazon.waytogo.gif

Your plossl can be sharper but doesn't have this AFOV so, could be a trade off.


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Posted 28 January 2021 - 04:01 AM

sure, even amazon has it: 

 

https://www.amazon.c...11464912&sr=8-6

 

Nope. Those are rebranded Celestron Ultima LX/Olivon 70*/TS Expanse/etc. that is a different EP line. 



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Posted 28 January 2021 - 08:05 AM

They are different because they have different characteristics.

I prefer to be prudent classifying any eyepiece as rebranded unless i have that information confirmed by the manufacturer, which generally i don't have.

And i have a feeling from what i experienced and also read everywhere including Germany, that from the 2" 5 different lines Omegon has, this SWA is their best product until now.



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Posted 28 January 2021 - 08:42 AM

Well it sound like you know more than I do then. Strange that Omegon would make fine eyepieces and then risk ruining their reputable by buying cheaper knock-offs from some other OEM.  I suppose they could make more money that way, but it makes me a bit leery of them.  It reminds me of how Zeiss and Leitz started farming out products selling under their brands to OEMs in Portugal, Hungary, China etc. Or, to give a more egregious example, how Fender first made all their guitars in the US, then farmed them out to Japan, where at least they got a "Squire" label on them not a "Fender" label, -- but were still very high quality, at least in the early years -- but then started farming out the products selling under the Fender label as well!  It has gotten to the point where one will pay more for a Mexican Fender, than a South Korean one, or a Malaysian one, or and Indonesian one etc. Quality control is still quite good in all their factories, but the US products, especially all the guitars built before CBS bought out Fender in 1970? are still by far most in demand and command a much higher price! Too much higher in my opinion!



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Posted 28 January 2021 - 09:05 AM

Well it sound like you know more than I do then. Strange that Omegon would make fine eyepieces and then risk ruining their reputable by buying cheaper knock-offs from some other OEM.  I suppose they could make more money that way, but it makes me a bit leery of them.  It reminds me of how Zeiss and Leitz started farming out products selling under their brands to OEMs in Portugal, Hungary, China etc. Or, to give a more egregious example, how Fender first made all their guitars in the US, then farmed them out to Japan, where at least they got a "Squire" label on them not a "Fender" label, -- but were still very high quality, at least in the early years -- but then started farming out the products selling under the Fender label as well!  It has gotten to the point where one will pay more for a Mexican Fender, than a South Korean one, or a Malaysian one, or and Indonesian one etc. Quality control is still quite good in all their factories, but the US products, especially all the guitars built before CBS bought out Fender in 1970? are still by far most in demand and command a much higher price! Too much higher in my opinion!

oh no, i just try to figure things with the few information we get. And i was reading german reviews from redline everywhere.

I just place an order on Astroshop. I bought a Baader clicklock and ask the seller about that different lines but he knows the same we do, about the differences we also can see and so concluded that they are different. I suppose in Germany they know the right answer.

To that brands mess i don't give much importance. I just want as a customer to have the best i can with the smaller price, like a balance, and to have a good service knowing that they have quality control and if not, return and refund. And i just wish in the future could be easier the commercial connection between USA and EU.



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Posted 29 January 2021 - 07:19 PM

I do understand your wishing to buy through a reputable dealer who will stands by all the products s/he sells. But I have had very food luck with returning items I am not satisfied to Amazon.  In fact their good service is no doubt part of why they are slowly buying out, out or forcing out every other company and becoming a huge monopoly.  I di a little bit inquiry into the difference between the Redline version and regular version of the 32mm that you reviewed.  As far as I can tell the whole "Redline" nonsense is just an attempt to associate the oculars with the old red lines Nikon used to put on their top end "E" models of their binoculars.But I think it is the same eyepiece just changed cosmetically by adding the silly redline to it. I am tempted to get one myself, but my old 32mm Vernon Plossel, while having only a 55 degree field or so is so very sharp that I suspect it would still always get the nod over other 32mms!.But maybe not.  I am still always open to new things and some of the new optical products of this time do put the ones I used in the 60s and 70s to shame!

Canon's top camera lenses (L-glass) use a red line.   I've got a 26mm 70 degree eyepiece with the same kind of body, they eyecup screws upward.  It performs very well but aside from saying "SWA" on it, it is unbranded.


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Posted 03 February 2021 - 05:04 PM

Yes could be, i don't know but you got me curious. I place the orders on  Astroshop by phone so the next time i order something i will ask them about that. Please note i am a regular customer and have no affiliation with them but here in Portugal is the best service i have.

I know the eye guard is different, mine has an excellent rubber which was what attracted me (really love it) and forget the redline option, and the redline has a thread to attach a camera but that was useless to me. I also can see they have different eye relief, height and weight and different focal lengths. The redline are all 2" (32mm, 22mm, 17mm, 13mm, 8mm, 5mm) and this one only the 38mm,32mm and 26mm are 2" and the 20mm,15mm and 10mm are 1,25".
The SWA is an inexpensive eyepiece even if one has to pay the shipping and i think worth it. I would prefer a 100º eyepiece but this 70º and what i can get with it made a fair deal to me.

About Amazon people should have no problem with it, the dealers sell on Amazon and Ebay too. If you buy this eyepiece on Amazon you are buying to astroshop in germany through Amazon.waytogo.gif

Your plossl can be sharper but doesn't have this AFOV so, could be a trade off.

Rdline 17, 13, 8, 5mm are 1.25" eyepieces with removable 2" skirts.

In the series:

32mm--good at f/8 and longer.  Lots of astigmatism at f/6 and shorter.

22mm--excellent

17mm--close to the 22mm.

13mm--good optics but bad edge of field brightening.

8mm--less EOFB thn the 13, but sharpness worse.

5mm--good down to f/5

3.5mm--unknown, never tested


Edited by Starman1, 03 February 2021 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2021 - 05:10 PM

Rdline 17, 13, 8, 5mm are 1.25" eyepieces with removable 2" skirts.

That's it. Yes.

I don't know that redline. I just know this 32mm SWA which i can testify it's nice at f/5. And the 21mm panorama line, which i've returned because it has those problems.


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 06:59 PM

Here's the 38mm version on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.c...3779016&sr=8-42

 

26mm:

https://www.amazon.c...3779345&sr=8-35

 

20mm:

https://www.amazon.c...13779503&sr=8-5

 

15mm:

https://www.amazon.c...13779546&sr=8-7

 

10mm:

https://www.amazon.c...13779546&sr=8-6

 

Astro-shop is selling a lot of Omegon stuff on Amazon, even the Omegon 16 inch Truss Dob by GSO. No Prime delivery though

https://www.amazon.c...13779172&sr=8-1


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Posted 19 February 2021 - 07:52 PM


Astro-shop is selling a lot of Omegon stuff on Amazon, even the Omegon 16 inch Truss Dob by GSO. No Prime delivery though

https://www.amazon.c...13779172&sr=8-1

Yes, they sell a lot of stuff on Amazon. And Ebay. Like other dealers i saw. I've noted that and it's good because they open selling channels for commercial mass products.


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