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#1 Sassenach

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Posted 21 January 2021 - 01:49 PM

Dear all,

 

I came across this pdf from Bresser from last year that discusses a 12" variant offered, as well as the standard 10" etc:

 

https://www.bresser....3af86ecea91.pdf

 

Has anyone heard about this?

 

The major difference (other than the size) seems to be with the OTA

 

10": "Tube made of metal with adjustable brackets and altitude wheels made of aluminium.."

12": "GRP tube with adjustable tube clamp and aluminum altitude bearings.."

 

Would be happy to hear more about this 12" Dob! How does GRP material compare to metal?

 

Best wishes,

 

Andrew

 


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Posted 21 January 2021 - 02:24 PM

It's a shame that the manufacturers don't add a dual-speed focuser as standard when stepping up to 10" or 12".  Apertura does, but not aware of any others.


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Posted 21 January 2021 - 05:34 PM

You can get an upgrade kit for the Bresser (First Light) focusers to make them dual speed. Not cheap, but worth it.

 

https://explorescien...875cf7709&_ss=r


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Posted 21 January 2021 - 05:49 PM

It's a shame that the manufacturers don't add a dual-speed focuser as standard when stepping up to 10" or 12".  Apertura does, but not aware of any others.

None of the Bressers have 2 speed focusers, I have 8" & 10" ones.



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Posted 21 January 2021 - 05:54 PM

None of the Bressers have 2 speed focusers, I have 8" & 10" ones.

Get the dual speed upgrade and Baader Clicklock... you'll be a changed man:

 

https://www.bresser....ier-Hexfoc.html

 

https://www.baader-p...ce-clamps.html

 

Baader M68i (double check which part number and threads you need!)


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Posted 21 January 2021 - 05:55 PM

Anyone have a view on Glass Reinforced Plastic (GRP) for OTAs? :-)
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Posted 22 January 2021 - 09:58 AM

Bresser confirmed today that they are definitely working on a 12" model, due out in latter part of this year


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Posted 22 January 2021 - 12:26 PM

Get the dual speed upgrade and Baader Clicklock... you'll be a changed man:

https://www.bresser....ier-Hexfoc.html

https://www.baader-p...ce-clamps.html

Baader M54i

I got the 2 speed upgrade for mine, definitely recommend it.

I also just upgraded the eyepiece clamp. And for the hexfoc focused you need a different part. Baader had one specifically for this focused because it uses the M68 thread size, but the thread pitch is a non standard. Default for the M68 size is 1/mm, but the hexfoc uses 0.75.

#2956269 M68i x 0,75-ClickLock (Hexafoc: Bresser / Explore Scientific, Omegon)

I considered the direct click lock attachment, but ended up getting the adapter ring and their short 2”visual back to allow a shorter focused to help with binoviewers. The Baader visual back is much nicer than the stock one.

I have a click lock extension tube I use with eyepieces.

Edited by bmcclana, 22 January 2021 - 12:27 PM.

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Posted 22 January 2021 - 12:37 PM

I also just upgraded the eyepiece clamp. And for the hexfoc focused you need a different part. Baader had one specifically for this focused because it uses the M68 thread size, but the thread pitch is a non standard. Default for the M68 size is 1/mm, but the hexfoc uses 0.75.

#2956269 M68i x 0,75-ClickLock (Hexafoc: Bresser / Explore Scientific, Omegon)

Thanks! There are indeed two Bresser/ES 2" clamps in the Baader catalogue! The Hexafoc is the right one for the Bresser Messier/ES First Light 10" Dobsonian... and the 12" should get the same focuser, but double check!




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