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#1 CharlieB

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 11:06 PM

Old wine, new bottle.

 

For one of our dear, recently departed (from view) planets.

 

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4" f/8 Jaegers OTA on eBay. LINK

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 11:25 PM

Has anyone ever braved the high fees/commissions to buy a scope off of liveauctioneers.com?

 

https://www.liveauct...scope-criterion


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#3 Russell Smith

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:31 AM

I sent an email to the seller of the Criterion inquiring about shipping. On the face page it shows in house shipping but when you open the payment and shipping link it says they do not.

I have never been able to get enough information to feel comfortable bidding before the auction actually starts.



#4 Senex Bibax

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:41 AM

Continuing a conversation I started on the January topic..

 

Senex Bibax (me), on 31 Jan 2021 - 5:25 PM, said:

    Seller posted more details and pictures. There's a C8, C11 and C14(?), all orange tubes. A boxload of eyepieces and accessories as well - check it out. I see at least six "University" eyepieces, Celestron Super Plossl, and more.

    

    Instead of posting their asking prices, she is saying what others are asking on eBay.

    

    We're in lockdown mode, so I assume local pickup in Ottawa.

    https://www.kijiji.c...tics/1548917668

    https://www.kijiji.c...opes/1548916539

 

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"They are clueless.  The Ottawa and surrounding markets are very, very small so unless they are willing to ship (risky, with those scopes if you don't know what you are doing, and expensive) they'll never realize the Ebay values.  Typical estate-sale scroungers, they often do not have a clue what they come across."

 

Not so much scroungers, seller inherited her uncle's optics collection, and she has no idea what it is worth. I bought three binoculars from her out of a collection of at least 75. She has been trying to sell them for the past three months, insisting on selling them in lots of 5 or as one big lot. I tried to be helpful, and explained to her that a) most of them were Japanese - lots of different J-B numbers, b) they were old, most were not junk but few were high end or collectible, c) only another collector would be interested in buying all or a large number of them. I also suggested she contact Focus Scientific in Ottawa for a proper evaluation or estimate of their worth (they are 5 minutes from her house). Not much of this seems to have sunk in. She updated the ad with my info that they were mostly Japanese and decent quality, but otherwise they are still all for sale. I offered her $750 for the lot, assuming that I would end up selling them off piecemeal to cover costs, and keep a few nuggets for myself, but she turned me down.

 

I expect the same applies to the telescopes. Focus Scientific are certainly familiar with the orange Celestrons, and could give a proper evaluation, but lockdown will probably last at least another couple of weeks, and they won't be open until it is lifted. I don't see her being willing to ship, and as Rich in Toronto said the Ottawa market is small. Once lockdown is lifted, I can see someone from Montreal being willing to make the 160 km drive.

 

I would be interested in one or more of the Celestrons, but she's asking a lot of money for any of them untested and unseen. I know the optics of the C11 and C14s can be a crap shoot, and given the pictures of their storage conditions, who knows what the corrector plates look like.


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:52 AM

Has anyone ever braved the high fees/commissions to buy a scope off of liveauctioneers.com?

 

https://www.liveauct...scope-criterion

 

 

 

I sent an email to the seller of the Criterion inquiring about shipping. On the face page it shows in house shipping but when you open the payment and shipping link it says they do not.

I have never been able to get enough information to feel comfortable bidding before the auction actually starts.

I do not accept a Buyers Premium well over 20%.  The only email I'd send is to let them know at least one potential bidder is gone from auctions of such fees. This eliminates a lot of auctions for me and that's fine as I'm eliminating buys anyway.


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 08:35 AM

I do not accept a Buyers Premium well over 20%.  The only email I'd send is to let them know at least one potential bidder is gone from auctions of such fees. This eliminates a lot of auctions for me and that's fine as I'm eliminating buys anyway.

27% is hard to accept. I bought a few items through them and if the premium was not bad enough they hooked me up with a shipper that was outrages.  Enough complaints caused them to change shippers who were more reasonable.  



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 08:46 AM

Interesting ATM? from Chicago, IL - $100. Looks like a combo of maybe a classic 60mm and something else that looks like either a short refractor or a catadioptric. It looked interesting enough to post. 

 

https://www.facebook...34485816897000/



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 09:41 AM

I don't think the seller knows that "knick knick stand" is a collapsible dob. I missed it myself. She told me there were five telescopes. She has updated some of the pictures, and I count the three old orange Celestrons (C8, C11, C14), a Celestron Nexstar 6SE, and  the little Celestron refractor. That makes five, not counting the Dob.

 

https://www.kijiji.c...tics/1548917668

https://www.kijiji.c...opes/1548916539

 

" The one standing up looks like a 14. The one in the box has the finder for the C11/C14. Looks like the C8 mount has been repurposed, with spacers to widen the fork. There's a nice set of University othos, And the knick-knack stand with all the junk piled on it is a collapsible dob. The prior owner seems to have been into mixing and matching scope components, so unless someone buys the lot, it's likely each scope will be missing pieces and come with unrelated pieces."

 

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:13 AM

If you look at the pictures in the ad, you will see that it is, of course, a model 142 ©. The poster of the Facebook ad made a typography error when listing the Unitron.

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:17 AM

If you look at the pictures in the ad, you will see that it is, of course, a model 142 ©. The poster of the Facebook ad made a typography error when listing the Unitron.

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:20 AM

I do not accept a Buyers Premium well over 20%.  The only email I'd send is to let them know at least one potential bidder is gone from auctions of such fees. This eliminates a lot of auctions for me and that's fine as I'm eliminating buys anyway.

We are in total agreement with that! That is not even a Dynamax 8 but, a Dynamax 6. To my knowledge, it was a total hit or miss if any of that series had even decent optics. We have one friend who bought one when they were in production. He had to send it back ten times before he got one with good optics. His story could be used to frighten little children into behaving at bed time! LOL

 

It does appear to have never been used. If it was used it was only a few times. It looks about as new as one will ever find. Even so, it's a total crap shoot. Along with that the 23% buyer's premium (a.k.a. sucker's fee) is excessive. 10% or maybe even 15% would be what we consider fair to high. However, 23% is just piracy. That's for people with more money than brains! Last is the shipping. I found no way to determine the cost of shipping. Since it was noted that they have a reputation for excessive shipping rates we would steer clear of this one.

 

Your mileage may vary.

 

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Addendum: We avoid any and all anti-social media platforms so, we have nothing to do with FB and never will. Therefore, we can't look at those listings. For what it is worth. LOL

 

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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:51 AM

Has anyone ever braved the high fees/commissions to buy a scope off of liveauctioneers.com?

 

https://www.liveauct...scope-criterion

23% buyer's commission is like tax in Europe.


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 10:52 AM

Interesting ATM? from Chicago, IL - $100. Looks like a combo of maybe a classic 60mm and something else that looks like either a short refractor or a catadioptric. It looked interesting enough to post. 

 

https://www.facebook...34485816897000/

It's been up before, could be custom scopes with Jaegers lenses?


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 12:16 PM

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Coulter 17.5" f4.5 mirror $1000

 

plus more. You got to see this ad.  there are many mirrors and other glass.   I swear I might have sold the guy the big lens years ago.


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 01:05 PM

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Coulter 17.5" f4.5 mirror $1000

 

plus more. You got to see this ad.  there are many mirrors and other glass.   I swear I might have sold the guy the big lens years ago.

I want that big elliptical flat...


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 01:21 PM

I don't think that is an elliptical flat. Maybe an angle shot of a coated mirror sitting in the white paper.

Look at it from a different perspective. 



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 03:27 PM

Questar serial number... #9-CV-3675-BB, $1000.00

 

https://offerup.com/...ail/1060952907/


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 03:56 PM

Questar serial number... #9-CV-3675-BB, $1000.00

 

https://offerup.com/...ail/1060952907/

Great price if it's in decent shape.  No legs?  No case?


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 04:03 PM

Great price if it's in decent shape.  No legs?  No case?

None in the pictures. 



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 05:07 PM

Mesa AZ,

 

Nice RV-6 $225 - ad says recent restoration; motor is weak but works. May be clutch issue?

< https://phoenix.crai...7270975131.html >

 

138,750 Danish Ore


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 05:49 PM

Mesa AZ,

 

Nice RV-6 $225 - ad says recent restoration; motor is weak but works. May be clutch issue?

< https://phoenix.crai...7270975131.html >

 

138,750 Danish Ore

 

Everything I see says it's an early one. There are several factors. If the legs were originally factory black paint, then it's a Very early one. 



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 06:14 PM

Questar serial number... #9-CV-3675-BB, $1000.00

 

https://offerup.com/...ail/1060952907/

I believe I’ve seen that blurry eyepiece photo and bottom picture before on a recent ebay ad.

 

Caveat emptor.



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 06:25 PM

Mesa AZ,

 

Nice RV-6 $225 - ad says recent restoration; motor is weak but works. May be clutch issue?

< https://phoenix.crai...7270975131.html >

 

138,750 Danish Ore

Someone finally read the top page!!!


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Posted 01 February 2021 - 06:56 PM

Has anyone ever braved the high fees/commissions to buy a scope off of liveauctioneers.com?

 

https://www.liveauct...scope-criterion

Its a bit odd the corrector retaining ring doesn't have a serial # on it.. I know the 8s had them, and I thought the 6s did as well. Maybe its flipped the other way round? 



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Posted 01 February 2021 - 07:02 PM

"Vintage telescope collection. 17 in all. From 1950's to early 1960's. All in good to excel. complete cond. and the wood cases are in good to excel. cond. Too many to photo. Would like to sell all as a collection. $250.00 apiece. Almost all worth more. !4 with equitorial mount, 3 with Alt Azi mount. 5 with 76 to 80mm objectives, rest 60mm. Tasco, Sears, Selsi, COC, Monolux, Manon, L&K, Stellar, Penncrest. Call and I will tell you about each one." in Fresno

 

https://fresno.craig...7270760351.html

Not sure I'd agree to that pricing for the lot




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