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#1 apfever

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:45 PM

This is an open and closed case. The interior and such has been vacuumed to protect for the short term. This scope was flooded while in the box standing on end. My guess would be flooded for a day and then dried out locally which would only be about a day. I'm positive it needs only a cleaning more than I have time to clean right now. I need to move some RV-6 to have room.  

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:50 PM

This should be an interesting restoration. That’s a Royal Astronomical Optics lens. 



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Posted 21 February 2021 - 07:51 PM

Flooded in muddy waters while standing on left end. The water went up a couple of times but stopped short of the first latch. It did some wicking higher on the box, and probably had waves during retrieval.  

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:01 PM

The last of the ID.  This is intact and in pretty good shape. It was very lightly nested onto the board. 

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:03 PM

Neat little scope! It seems to have dried out fast and doesn't look like it corroded at all.  Most of that silt will right brush off.


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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:10 PM

I put the green felt in there earlier, and had flipped the lower two legs end to end.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:18 PM

The fakes on the left are remains from a solid sheet deposit of sediment in the box end. This stuff fell off easy from most of the mount critical areas, but.....more to come.

The accessory box in second picture is under the lid in middle of the main box.  It's a stretch of the cliché, but aside from the silt it looks very good. :)

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:31 PM

One more picture entry after this.

Check out the deposit layer on what were upward facing parts. The water was above the cradle, but no bad deposits on the upper half. 

The black finished exterior of the mount holds the muck much better but it does knock off in 'chunkage' with friendly abuse. I had to do some movements to get the parts back in the box correctly. Some partial rotations were smooth and sweet. This is a mini version of the Tasco 10TE mount, no doubt made about the same time. It is the only scope I've seen this mount on. I'll have to do a side by side photo before I sell my 10TE. The mount is way cool.

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Posted 21 February 2021 - 08:50 PM

Last picture entry. 

The mud sheets fell off as I touched the gasket. The only rust is light surface from the high tension split ring lock washers. The bolts are stainless and all finished parts don't show any corrosion issues. 

The main mount is held off the hub by some wood blocks. The fit between mount and hub is a close slip and won't take the crud. There seems to be little penetration but I'll take a deeper look when I get back to clean this up.  I have to RV-6 my brains out first. 

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Posted 22 February 2021 - 12:46 PM

That's a quite rare Astro Optical R-63.  Nice find.

 

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Posted 22 February 2021 - 01:17 PM

Neil,

 

We all know how you love to restore basket cases like this. But please tell us that you're not flooding your own basement to make more opportunities for yourself! fishing.gif

 

Where did this swamp-thing come from?

 

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Posted 22 February 2021 - 01:58 PM

Maybe that monkey wards can be cleaned up like new. 



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Posted 22 February 2021 - 02:51 PM

Last picture entry. 

The mud sheets fell off as I touched the gasket. The only rust is light surface from the high tension split ring lock washers. The bolts are stainless and all finished parts don't show any corrosion issues. 

The main mount is held off the hub by some wood blocks. The fit between mount and hub is a close slip and won't take the crud. There seems to be little penetration but I'll take a deeper look when I get back to clean this up.  I have to RV-6 my brains out first. 

I love restorations like this.  The end result is very rewarding.



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Posted 22 February 2021 - 03:09 PM

I bought a flood scope once.

Lots of water but no silt.

It cleaned up fine.

Watch out for the legs if they are still damp, they will shrink as they dry, the telescope 

could then collapse if set up and you may find yourself with a clamchip. Our couch

saved mine it nose (objective) dived right into the cushions, otherwise it would have

been the hardwood floorpraying.gif  

Robert

 

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Posted 22 February 2021 - 05:20 PM

I don't think he'll have those same issues. Looks like it dried out long ago and with minimal superficial damage. The EPs will probably be the hardest things to clean out.


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Posted 22 February 2021 - 05:59 PM

Chip,  it's not my basement. I picked up the Adams from Longmont or Ft. Collins or Loveland or one of those North towns of i25.

 

Robert, the scope was quickly dried after flooding without even showing much box damage. Mostly water marks on the box.  Things dry out quickly here and tend to be well preserved. 

It isn't just our very dry climate and well above average number of sunny days for the country. A lot of our preservatives come from the high altitude and I'm higher than Denver. 

The high altitude and thinner air allows water to evaporate viscously.  I can burn winter firewood hardwood that was leafed out and cut that Spring. The thinner air also retards rust formation.

The lack of oxygen slows a lot of degradation on a lot of things - except humans.  We do have a rather high UV exposure and can fade a Celestron black to a gold very quickly in a window. 

 

I suspect the scope is fine inside and will take a Uni shine on the outside.


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Posted 23 February 2021 - 09:43 AM

Some links.

 

R-63 link   on CN

AM ad link

 

I don't know the asking price in the AM ad.


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Posted 23 February 2021 - 11:00 AM

$100, plus $30 shipping. 

 

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