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#1 Starrynightowl89

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 05:42 AM

Not sure if these pics are enough to go off of to know for sure, but I don't have access to the scope in person. I know that it doesn't have a tripod, not a controller. It has a few accessories but nothing major. Kinda wondering what it might go for too, or even a ballpark estimate based on the different types of OTA it could be. Thanks, and if I get any extra info I will post it here.

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 06:18 AM

It looks like an old Meade LX3,5,6 to me age is most probably mid part of the 80,s value wise hard to say not much tho as you haven’t landed on a gold mine lol.



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Posted 26 February 2021 - 08:00 AM

My guess is an LX3, maybe LX5, not an LX6 which had a sloped panel. The LX3s has excellent optics, though the early units with silvered secondaries may need to be recoated. I recoated mine and it works fine. These make fantastic visual scopes and work well for basic imaging.

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 08:13 AM

Yep, it's a Meade LX3. The polar finders on those scopes were great too.


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Posted 26 February 2021 - 09:59 AM

The last pic is identical to the power panel (Fig 1) shown in the supplemental instructions for the LX3 here.


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Posted 26 February 2021 - 02:06 PM

without a controller worth a great deal less.

 

You'll probably need to defork it and attach to an EQ mount



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Posted 26 February 2021 - 02:27 PM

No tripod or drive controller? Maybe $200-$300 for the tube assembly.



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Posted 26 February 2021 - 02:46 PM

Starrynightowl89,

 

   It is a Meade LX3. I have a 10" version.

 

   You do not need the Handbox. it only has switches and a rheostat for making very small drive speed corrections. The tracking drive in the base works fine without it. The hand control is only a "drive corrector" for (film, back then) photography.

 

   Since there are no "smarts" in the clock drive, it really needs to be used on an equatorial wedge. It starts tracking in RA as soon as the power is applied. If you do not have the wedge and tripod, it will be best used unpowered with manual "push along" to follow objects you are observing. Make sure that the included "tripod" also includes the equatorial wedge. The manual pointed to by Errol in Post #5 will show you what the wedge looks like.

 

 

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 03:41 PM

 wedge and tripod can be found pretty cheap.

If the electronics are toast ( quite possible) the hand controller won't work anyways.

 

 I use hand controller as my moto-focus is attached to it.

 And the hand controller is meant to work with a moto-dec -

 

Pointing West in late afternoon , is a long reach to dec slow mo knob - short arms . Moto-dec helps that.

Taps to the hand controller N & S paddles pan the disk help me pick up surface detail , Hands free is nice.

 

Setting the sidereal rate is a bonus of the hand controller. 

But half the time I just set up no gadgets and just use manual focus and slow mo controls.No electronics.smile.gif

 

That LX-3 is used mostly for Solar . 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 26 February 2021 - 07:43 PM

Thank you all so much for the replies and info. I'm still trying to get the info from the lady. She is actually interested in selling it but for some reason she things it's worth $3,200 and she is asking $1,000 for it. 🤣🤣🤣 Unless there is some info I'm not receiving, then idk where she came up with the figure.

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Posted 26 February 2021 - 08:13 PM

Starrynightowl89,

 

   The lady may have an original invoice for it. My LX3 with accessories was nearly $4,000 when I purchased it from Astronomics in early 1987.

 

   You should be able to find a reasonable value for it by checking the old ads here on CN for prior sales. It will make a considerable difference if it is a 10" but it looks more like an 8" to me.

 

   Before making an offer on it, you should get some photos of the OTA looking down the front. Many of the LX3 SCTs of that era were marked MCSOG (Multi-Coated Silvered Optics Group). The primary mirror coating is likely still in good shape unless the scope was stored under poor conditions but the silvered secondary mirror may well have a very bad coating on it by now. It is very possible, you will have to remove the secondary and send it out for recoating. Mine had to be recoated after about 25 years. A tag on the rear of the OTA should be present if the scope did have the MCSOG option. (I think I do see a tag on the back in your first photo of the original post.)

 

 

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Posted 27 February 2021 - 11:56 AM

"The lady may have an original invoice for it. My LX3 with accessories was nearly $4,000 when I purchased it from Astronomics in early 1987."

 

I'm curious - what accessories? .  That seems like a lot. Mine was purchased around the same time.



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Posted 27 February 2021 - 02:00 PM

As you mentioned that it comes "with few accessories but nothing major", I would give it a pass if the seller wants $1k for the scope.


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Posted 27 February 2021 - 02:05 PM

Stardust Dave,

 

"The lady may have an original invoice for it. My LX3 with accessories was nearly $4,000 when I purchased it from Astronomics in early 1987."

 

I'm curious - what accessories? .  That seems like a lot. Mine was purchased around the same time.

   Keep in mind that there was a considerable difference in price between the 8" you purchased and the 10" I bought. I will have to dig through a few boxes to find the original invoice but a quick look at the February 1987 Sky & Telescope I ordered from shows the following:

  • "List Price" from Meade
    -- $3320 for the 8" 2080 LX3
    -- $5390 for the 10" 2120 LX3
  • Advertised Price from Astronomics
    -- $1795 for the 8" 2080 LX3
    -- $2795 for the 10" 2120 LX3

   I addition, I recall adding the optional accessories like the deluxe altitude and azimuth adjusters for the wedge, the declination motor assembly, the map light, a full set of Meade Series 4000 eyepieces, and a few more items. If I can find the original invoice I can update with the full list.

 

 

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Posted 27 February 2021 - 05:36 PM

"Keep in mind that there was a considerable difference in price between the 8" you purchased and the 10" I bought. I will have to dig through a few boxes to find the original invoice but a quick look at the February 1987 Sky & Telescope I ordered from shows the following:"

 

I'd missed that is was a 10"LX-3 ,not an 8" LX-3.

 

"List Price" from Meade
-- $3320 for the 8" 2080 LX3
-- $5390 for the 10" 2120 LX3
Advertised Price from Astronomics
-- $1795 for the 8" 2080 LX3
-- $2795 for the 10" 2120 LX3"

 

I believe acquired in 1985 or 1986 from Adorama. 

Meade was still honoring the MCSOG recoat back when I called years ago. Having no receipt - I was out of luck.

 

I don't know whether they covered shipping costs or not ( either way ).

Spent maybe $50 to recoat , and reinstall corrector. Learned a lot in the process .


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Posted 28 February 2021 - 07:48 AM

Heh, heh, I have several LX scopes of this vintage from the original LX up through the Premier. I always take all of the accessories off including the handbox to strip them down to the basics. A lot of these add-ons were useful for long exposure, visually guided photography, but just get in the way for visual. Personally, I love their simplicity for a relaxing evening of star-hopping. Just plug'm in and go. Add a nice RACI finder and you're done.

Value is in the eyes of the beholder. I'm willing to pay extra for a unit in good condition. Survey the classifieds to see what they have been selling for.

Enjoy!
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Posted 28 February 2021 - 02:33 PM

These were two additional photos I got that included all the accessories with it. You would have to see what is there if you can. Thank you all again.

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Posted 28 February 2021 - 03:12 PM

I'd used the LX-3 as a tabletople top scope in alt-az mode.

Thought useful even without a wedge and tripod. 

 

All I can see in pic is an EP ,diagonal -long power cord (s) and perhaps a photo adapter /extender.


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Posted 28 February 2021 - 05:20 PM

As you mentioned that it comes "with few accessories but nothing major", I would give it a pass if the seller wants $1k for the scope.

No way i would go 1k.  Odd it has the much newer RA finder.  I don't remember the LX3's coming with them in 1984.



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Posted 28 February 2021 - 09:56 PM

So with that being said, everything that's viewable in the picture, what would be a fair asking price for this scope and accessories? I recall someone saying roughly $200-$300? I'll likely pass on it even if they were to come down to that just because there are better things out there you can get for the money. I do like Cats and Cassegrains though. I have that Meade ETX-90 and fell in love with the portability mixed with amazing views/quality. I've really been meaning to get some accessories for it like a case and I'd like some nebula filters.

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Posted 28 February 2021 - 10:09 PM

You can get a like new old orange tube Celestron scope, wedge, and tripod for about $500.00 tops.  This scope doesn't look like it has been taken care of that well and the back cell has the end 'open' without a dust plug.  I would want you to look at the optics to see what you have and keep in mind the secondary may well need recoating.  Without a wedge (maybe with a tripod) but no hand controller they look to be about in the $300 to $350 range.  As others have said, take a look in the past classifieds.  There is no way it would be worth what the lady is asking.

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Posted 28 February 2021 - 11:06 PM

I absolutley agree with Chas, Charlie and the others here - Too steep!

 

For the sellers asking price of $1k, it seems way to steep. Unless they have a whole lot of other acessories to sweeten the deal, like the hand controller, tripod & wedge and a handful of eyepieces (Ala Televue Naglers) I just don't see it worth the asking price.

 

However, they might not be showing you all of the scopes acessories... so that is something to think about as well. Maybe there is more? If you were close by the seller, it may not hurt to go over and ask. Also, as Charlie pointed out in the above post - that scope may have been open to the elements and critters/insects.... which can make a mess on mirrors in very short time. That is something to consider very importantly as well.

 

That said, I have no experience with Meade's SCT's from that era... only what I've gleaned from the knowlegeable folks here.

 

My Dos Centavos.

Cheers my friend,

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Posted 01 March 2021 - 06:43 AM

Meade did not make the best optics for SCT's pre 1990's. I mean sure some were good and some were so so and some were bad. I have had around 20 Meade SCT's made before 1990 and none were super good.  Once we got into the mid and later 90's Meade was batting much better on the optics.



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Posted 02 March 2021 - 07:59 PM

Maybe I missed it... but is there an image with the cover off showing the focal ratio?

 

Meades are usually marked on the corrector retaining ring.

 

 

Value without knowing or seeing it operate is a guess. She needs to be made to understand that just cause it was working when stored... is no assurance of now or how well.


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Posted 03 March 2021 - 02:44 PM

Looking at old LX3 manuals, that indeed seems to be what it is. I wasn't clear when in the LX series the f6.3 versions showed up. (mentioned in the LX6 doc) My personal opinion is that one of those should be more desirable, and worth more.




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