Jump to content

  •  

CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.

Photo

Flying Bat and Squid nebulae Sh2-129/Ou4 narrowfield (m-sho, c-shorgb) - 131 hours!

  • Please log in to reply
6 replies to this topic

#1 ramdom

ramdom

    Vostok 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 179
  • Joined: 19 May 2015
  • Loc: Youngstown, NY

Posted 03 March 2021 - 01:10 AM

Also includes LBN445, LBN449, LBN453, v419 Cephei.

 

ou4_sh2-129_sho_nf.v0.3.inline.jpg https://www.astrobin.com/hg1c5d/E/

 

ou4_sh2-129_sho_nf.v0.2_starless.inline.jpg https://www.astrobin.com/hg1c5d/F/

 

ou4_sh2-129_L_nf.v0.inline.jpg  https://www.astrobin.com/hg1c5d/C/

 

Total integration: 7876 minutes/131+ hours (153/204 x 300/420s or 37h for Ha + 632/47 x 300/420s 58h for O3 + 153/185 x 300/420s or 34h for S2 + 60 x 120s for OSC).

Cameras: QHY163M (16mp mono) and QHY247C (24mp OSC) CMOS cooled to -20 and -15 degrees C.
Telescopes: Takahashi FC100DF Steinheil fluorite doublet and Stellarvue SV70T triplet apochromat refractors @ f/4.9 and @ f/4.8.
Reducers: Takahashi FC-35 (0.66x) and SFFR70-APO (0.8x).
Mount: Paramount MyT.
Filters: 1.25" Astrodon 5nm Ha, 3nm O3, 3nm S2 and 2" Baader UV-IR-Cut
Software: TheSkyX Pro, Sharpcap, PixInsight, Topaz Studio 2.

 

Inline images with reduced quality uploaded to the forum. Full resolution images of all images in the series are available at https://www.astrobin.com/hg1c5d and https://www.astrobin.com/jdaa90/ and of the primary images at http://ram.org/image..._7876m_131h.jpg and http://ram.org/image...m_3160m_53h.jpg

 

The Squid nebula (ou4) occupies over one degree of the night sky, representing the largest angular extent ever found in a planetary nebula. Known colloquially as the giant squid nebula, it is physically nearly 50 light years across.  This bipolar nebula could be one of the nearest of its type known, situated around 2300 light years away, though its possible planetary nebula nature needs confirmation.  Even though it is big and close, you're not likely to find it easily. It is an extremely faint nebula emitting primarily O3 signal and resides within the larger Flying Bat nebula (sh2-129) which tends to overshadow it, making it a challenging target to image.

 

The Squid shape is created by the outflow of material driven by a triple system of hot, massive stars catalogued as HR8119 (blue hypergiant) as well as the pulsating variable star v419 Cephei (red supergiant) seen near the center. While their shapes do their names justice, to me, the Squid seated within the Flying Bat more resembles a hand holding an infinity stone (viewed sideways) rather than a Bat carrying a bejeweled Squid on its back.

 

Seeing the Squid situated within the Flying Bat (which apparently has been confirmed) brightly light up in Ha and S2 emissions makes for a fascinating study in contrast and perspective: Most people prefer to assume the head of the bat shape to be part on the bottom left when it is viewed right side up (aka sideways) but to me it's more natural to have the head be where the small blobq of O3 is. This is especially so in the narrowfield framing of my second image, and viewing it sideways, small O3 blob pointing down, and pointing up, all offer something to contemplate. In the widefield framing however it is clear that what most people think is more correct since the wings of the Bat go back a long way.

 

The Flying Bat and Squid project/series became a huge undertaking for me, ending up with a total of more than 131 hours in the final integrated widefield image of both objects and three series of images, with a few versions in each, depending on the data set used for the integration.

In the first series of images, I am showcasing the Squid nebula by itself using only the O3 filter data, with and without RGB stars.  The mono Squid imaged with the Takahashi FC100DF consists of ~53 hours of total exposure in O3, making it my single longest total exposure of a target with a particular framing with a specific filter/scope/camera combination.  The RGB data collected using the QHY247C with the SV70T adds another two hours to the exposure.  The total integration for the version with RGB stars is ~55 hours.  I also captured another 5.5 hours of O3 data using my SV70T which I added in while creating the narrowfield version by reprocessing using LocalNormalization and Drizzle (which were a big help to me in combining the data for narrowfield and widefield series).

 

There are several versions of the Squid only framing with full capture details at https://www.astrobin.com/jdaa90/ --- the difference between the two monochrome versions of the Squid is the application of HDR Multiscale Transform which reduces the halo on the central star as well as the amount of data used: (A) is based on the full ~53 hours whereas (B) is based on the best 40 hours.  © and (D) are corresponding versions that combine O3 in the blue channel with RGB stars along with changes in the amount of saturation and brightness. Similarly with (E) and (F), but the Squid is in monochrome mixed with the RGB stars background. Finally, the last image is the re-processed O3 version without and without RGB stars representing ~58 and ~60 hours worth of data.

 

Following the Squid-only series, I worked on the narrowfield (https://www.astrobin.com/hg1c5d/) and widefield (coming soon) series where it is situated between the wingspan of Flying Bat. I started with data from the FC100DF/QHY163M combination which results in a total exposure of 78+ hours for SHO. The SV70T/QHY163M data used for the widefield framing representing another 51+ hours was also integrated in. The RGB data using the QHY247C with the SV70T adds another two hours.  The total exposure of the final image with the narrowfield or widefield framing is 131+ hours, my longest to date!

 

For the narrowfield series, I struggled with colour. The Ha (A), the S2 (B), and the L versions that include the O3 data (with and without stars, C and D) are my favourites.  The final colour versions were processed additionally using TopazStudio (with and without stars, E and F).

 

As always, thanks for looking!

 

--Ram

 


  • psandelle, dfva, elmiko and 10 others like this

#2 maxsid

maxsid

    Messenger

  • *****
  • Posts: 424
  • Joined: 11 Sep 2018
  • Loc: Sunnyvale, CA

Posted 03 March 2021 - 01:38 AM

Oh my... This is super great - congrats!

That's one of the targets I do want to get but never could even see a sign of the squid...

But I am shooting with an OSC and Bortle 8.


Edited by maxsid, 03 March 2021 - 01:39 AM.

  • ramdom likes this

#3 ramdom

ramdom

    Vostok 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 179
  • Joined: 19 May 2015
  • Loc: Youngstown, NY

Posted 03 March 2021 - 02:54 AM

Oh my... This is super great - congrats!

That's one of the targets I do want to get but never could even see a sign of the squid...

But I am shooting with an OSC and Bortle 8.

 

Thanks! Yeah, that combination will definitely hurt you for the Squid esp. unless you use a narrowband filter like the ones they use for OSCs, I see people getting really good results out of those.  

 

--Ram



#4 maxsid

maxsid

    Messenger

  • *****
  • Posts: 424
  • Joined: 11 Sep 2018
  • Loc: Sunnyvale, CA

Posted 03 March 2021 - 03:07 AM

I tried with an L-eNhance dual-band filter for 5 hours. Not even a hint of the squid..

Will try later this year in a darker place. Or add way more exposures from my Bortle 8 (5 hours was not nearly enough).

 

Thanks! Yeah, that combination will definitely hurt you for the Squid esp. unless you use a narrowband filter like the ones they use for OSCs, I see people getting really good results out of those.  

 

--Ram


Edited by maxsid, 03 March 2021 - 03:08 AM.

  • ramdom likes this

#5 ramdom

ramdom

    Vostok 1

  • *****
  • topic starter
  • Posts: 179
  • Joined: 19 May 2015
  • Loc: Youngstown, NY

Posted 03 March 2021 - 04:54 AM

Yes, I wouldn't give up with 5 hours - I was putting in around 6 hours per night  with a straight O3 3nm filter and the first night the Squid was a thin wisp in rural skies... but if you don't see it after 10-12 hours, yeah, I agree, this may be a unique target. But 10-12 hours is a costly experiment.   But I do think the Bortle 8 with a NB filter (even these duo-NB filters) shouldn't matter so much but it is a very faint target. 



#6 psandelle

psandelle

    Soyuz

  • *****
  • Posts: 3,634
  • Joined: 18 Jun 2008
  • Loc: Los Angeles

Posted 03 March 2021 - 11:51 AM

bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif bow.gif

 

OMG!!!

 

Nicely done!

 

Paul


  • ramdom likes this

#7 elmiko

elmiko

    Fly Me to the Moon

  • *****
  • Posts: 5,669
  • Joined: 27 Jul 2009
  • Loc: Arizona

Posted 03 March 2021 - 11:47 PM

This is outstanding Ram!! Great to see your awesome images again!


  • ramdom likes this


CNers have asked about a donation box for Cloudy Nights over the years, so here you go. Donation is not required by any means, so please enjoy your stay.


Recent Topics






Cloudy Nights LLC
Cloudy Nights Sponsor: Astronomics