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#26 Pinbout

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Posted 04 May 2021 - 03:54 PM

Some 2x4’s and a little bit of 1/2” plywood

 

https://3dwarehouse....2855933140d3bc4


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Posted 04 May 2021 - 06:48 PM

I absolutely love my Tele Vue Air Chair! choo-choo.gif



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Posted 05 May 2021 - 07:18 AM

This stool has plenty of up/down adjustment for the dob - totally love it.    

What I like best is the comfy molded seat, low low price, and super light to 

lift with a couple of fingers and moves super easy around the scope. 

 

And for the mockers....just Ignore the wheels....they don't work on gravel or dirt or grass anyway.

If you are on concrete or asphalt, occasionally being able to wheel around the scope is actually fun too.     

 

-Lauren   

What brand is that?  Tnx.



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Posted 05 May 2021 - 01:33 PM

It is from Flash Furniture, currently available at walmart.com or bed bath and beyond website

 

https://www.walmart....ull&athena=true

 

I use this with all three of my scopes.   10 inch F 4.8 dob,   13 inch F3 dob  and SE6 (tripod lowered for seated view)  

 

It may not have enough adjustment range for a larger dob or a refractor. 

But is perfect for my equipment.

 

I believe I paid $39 on Amazon, but I don't see it there any longer.

Possible supply chain issues? 

 

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#30 Richie2shoes

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Posted 05 May 2021 - 08:20 PM

When I had my 8", I used an adjustable rolling stool from Harbor Freight.  It was too low for my 12", so I bought a starbound chair.  At my heaviest I was 375 and used it without problems.  I'm 235 now and still no issues.


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Posted 05 May 2021 - 08:57 PM

Love the Vestil 600. Very solid when adjusted. Have seen too many people at outreach get dumped by any chair with a sliding machanism, even after you show them how to use it.



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Posted 06 May 2021 - 07:36 PM

Love the Vestil 600. Very solid when adjusted. Have seen too many people at outreach get dumped by any chair with a sliding machanism, even after you show them how to use it.

 

Been a Starbound for 20 years and outreach too.  Family and friends. No dumps yet. But I don't just turn someone loose.. I'll adjust it for them until I'm confident.

 

I think this pretty much says it all:

 

When I had my 8", I used an adjustable rolling stool from Harbor Freight.  It was too low for my 12", so I bought a starbound chair.  At my heaviest I was 375 and used it without problems.  I'm 235 now and still no issues.

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Posted 07 May 2021 - 06:00 AM

  Ive had it for awhile now but I believe this is the one I have.

Works great, I don’t really have to adjust while observing but I can.

 

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Posted 07 May 2021 - 07:31 AM

  Ive had it for awhile now but I believe this is the one I have.

Works great, I don’t really have to adjust while observing but I can.

That looks identical to my Vestil from AMZ.



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 08:18 AM

Love the Vestil 600. Very solid when adjusted. Have seen too many people at outreach get dumped by any chair with a sliding machanism, even after you show them how to use it.

I have had my Starbound chair for about 15 years and I can't imagine how it could possibly slip down unintendedly.  confused1.gif   To adjust mine, I have to take every bit of the weight off the seat and lift the front up to a pretty extreme angle before it will move either up or down.  Other makes and home brews may be a different story.



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 08:58 AM

I have had my Starbound chair for about 15 years and I can't imagine how it could possibly slip down unintendedly.  confused1.gif   To adjust mine, I have to take every bit of the weight off the seat and lift the front up to a pretty extreme angle before it will move either up or down.  Other makes and home brews may be a different story.

 

What can happen is this:

 

The proper technique:

 

- Unlocking the seat:  Hands under the front of the seat,  lift up with your legs, partially standing. This tilts the seat up and unlocks it.

 

- Adjusting the height: While holding the seat against your legs, position it by raising or lowering yourself.  This is so quick and easy.

 

- Locking the seat: lower the front of seat until it's in position. I do this by sliding my hands back under my butt, this keeps the seat in position while locking it.

 

This entire process takes less than 5 seconds. It's so quick and easy, I often adjust the seat height just to look through the finder.

 

- What can go wrong:  Trying to sit down before lowering the seat into position and locking it.

 

When I'm showing someone how to use the chair, I demonstrate the proper and improper technique. 

 

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Posted 07 May 2021 - 09:19 AM

Is this omegon a copy of starbound ? https://www.teleskop...m-to-82-cm.html



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Posted 07 May 2021 - 07:20 PM

That looks identical to my Vestil from AMZ.

I think they probably ARE the same thing. 



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Posted 09 May 2021 - 03:28 AM

I have been very happy with the Starbound chair. It is worth every penny ten times over. One time I went to a dark sky star party and forgot to bring it, and my lower back was just screaming at me.....



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Posted 09 May 2021 - 09:16 PM

Is this omegon a copy of starbound ? https://www.teleskop...m-to-82-cm.html

 

Almost but not quite. Everything but the front legs appear to be copied off the Starbound.  The front legs on Omegon an splayed like the rear legs, the front legs of the Starbound are straight.  I prefer the Starbound design since it lets me get closer to the scope in some circumstances.

 

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Posted 10 May 2021 - 08:55 AM

Almost but not quite. Everything but the front legs appear to be copied off the Starbound.  The front legs on Omegon an splayed like the rear legs, the front legs of the Starbound are straight.  I prefer the Starbound design since it lets me get closer to the scope in some circumstances.

 

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Thanks Jon , I've seen a thread comparing both .

 

Like you say the omegon isn't an exact clone . The legs , the mechanism , also the cushioning is a hit different . But something to note is that the omegon is nearly 50$ less than the strabound . If someone is buying a starbound from EU , the omegon seems a better value . But from US , starbound has more value . 



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Posted 10 May 2021 - 09:47 AM

 The front legs on Omegon an splayed like the rear legs, the front legs of the Starbound are straight.

Those splayed front legs can be an advantage if observing on soft ground.  The Starbound's legs will sink unless modded with tennis balls or something else to prevent this.

 

But the overall build quality of the Starbound is better.  It's a noticeable difference.  If I were buying a third observing chair, I'd get the Starbound.

 

Also, I have to say that another suggestion that someone posted in that thread where I compared these has been a godsend, a must for either chair.  A bungee cord connecting the upper frame crossbar and that on the back of the seat can 1) prevent accidental falls for anyone who raises the seat while still sitting in it, and--more importantly for me--2) prevent the endless frustration of the seat falling every time you inadvertently bump the chair.


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Posted 11 May 2021 - 08:33 AM

Those splayed front legs can be an advantage if observing on soft ground.  The Starbound's legs will sink unless modded with tennis balls or something else to prevent this.

 

But the overall build quality of the Starbound is better.  It's a noticeable difference.  If I were buying a third observing chair, I'd get the Starbound.

 

Also, I have to say that another suggestion that someone posted in that thread where I compared these has been a godsend, a must for either chair.  A bungee cord connecting the upper frame crossbar and that on the back of the seat can 1) prevent accidental falls for anyone who raises the seat while still sitting in it, and--more importantly for me--2) prevent the endless frustration of the seat falling every time you inadvertently bump the chair.

It was your thread .

 

It's been some time since that thread ... How are you using your 2 chairs ? Can you provide a bit more info as you've used both for some time ? 



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Posted 11 May 2021 - 10:44 AM

It was your thread .

 

It's been some time since that thread ... How are you using your 2 chairs ? Can you provide a bit more info as you've used both for some time ? 

I've been using the Omegon at my dark site, where I observe on uneven ground.  The chair has been more than serviceable.  It balances fairly well despite the rough terrain and the height range covers all the angles I need it to for both the 16" f/4 and 76mm refractor.   Although the seat is well-worn and has less padding, I've not noticed any "rear-end fatigue" even after 3 hours of observing. The bungee cord eliminates the most aggravating aspect of both chairs, where every little bump would send the seat plummeting to the bottom.  Although it's necessary to detach the cord when using the chair at a height below 20" or so, this is a minor inconvenience at most.   In use, the only disadvantage of the Omegon is that it only comes in black, which makes it hard to see and a tripping hazard while my eyes are still adapting to the dark.

 

I use the Starbound at my suburban home site, where I observe on a paved driveway.  Pretty much everything I've written above also applies to the Starbound. I never notice any difference between the two while actually using them, except perhaps that the sturdier locking bar of the Starbound keeps the chair from "rattling" as you move it about.

 

However, the main reason I would recommend the Starbound over the Omegon is the grommet issue I brought up in the other thread.  The Omegon's use of soft, brittle rubber for the grommets covering the locking bars was a poor choice not made with longevity in mind.  


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 08:20 AM

I have had my Stardust chair (sold by Hands on Optics) for over 13 years, and it still looks like new.  It appears to be the same chair as the Vestil cpro-600 ergonomic worker chair, discussed above.  It is very well constructed, comfortable, and secure with its positive seat locking design.


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Posted 16 May 2021 - 01:05 AM

As a DIY’er I have built the Denver chair several times, but I always seem to leave at home due to its weight and lack of ergonomics. It is very frustrating to use so I’ve been using pool chemical buckets for years.

 

 Year or two ago I built a Cat’s Perch Pro Chair from the Catseye vendor and it is wonderful. Besides being beautiful to look at, it is light, very sturdy and adjusts to a wide range of seat heights. You can buy it ready-made, just the plans, or the plans with a hardware package. It was worth it just for the time saved from ordering all the screws. It is not for the beginning woodworker though. It requires a lot of attention to detail and careful drilling - a drill press is advisable. I used black walnut and sycamore for mine. The wood chair complements my wood dob build nicely.


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Posted 16 May 2021 - 04:10 AM

As a DIY’er I have built the Denver chair several times, but I always seem to leave at home due to its weight and lack of ergonomics. It is very frustrating to use so I’ve been using pool chemical buckets for years.

 

 Year or two ago I built a Cat’s Perch Pro Chair from the Catseye vendor and it is wonderful. Besides being beautiful to look at, it is light, very sturdy and adjusts to a wide range of seat heights. You can buy it ready-made, just the plans, or the plans with a hardware package. It was worth it just for the time saved from ordering all the screws. It is not for the beginning woodworker though. It requires a lot of attention to detail and careful drilling - a drill press is advisable. I used black walnut and sycamore for mine. The wood chair complements my wood dob build nicely.

 

I have a Catsperch Pro made from Oak. 

 

Compared to the Starbound, it's heavy and requires dismounting to adjust.  It's primary virtue that it's significantly taller than the Starbound I mostly along with the Starbound for those moments when the Starbound is not tall enough.

 

I find climbing up the Catsperch to the higher rungs a bit awkward even with the step more or less ideally positioned. Most of the time, I just use the Starbound and stand if it's not tall enough.

 

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The Catsperch Pro is sturdy and comfortable, it now has a pad and I'd use it a lot more if I didn't have a Starbound handy.
 
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Posted 18 May 2021 - 01:14 PM

I like the price and quality of Vestil CPRO-800LP. At the time I got it, it was $100 on Amazon and said 300lb capacity. Now it's $123 and 220lb recommended.  I can vouch that it easily holds 220lbs. Super fast to adjust... Sit up a little, tilt it up, slide to new spot, tilt down and sit.  Takes as long to do as it did to read the steps.   




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