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Should I wait for next generation of Vixen EQ mounts?

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#1 TenkoFox

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 10:46 AM

I've just about saved up enough money for a Vixen SXD2 mount, but I have one concern: it was released over 8 years ago. I'm worried Vixen may release an SXD3 with the next version of Starbook TEN (which looks a bit dated now, especially with that old-school serial cable) within the next year or so.

 

I'd be facing some rather significant buyer's remorse if something like that was released within months after my purchase. 

 

Does anyone have any idea if/when Vixen will release new EQ mounts, perhaps based on prior release cadence or industry rumors?

 

 

 


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Posted 08 May 2021 - 04:50 PM

I've just about saved up enough money for a Vixen SXD2 mount, but I have one concern: it was released over 8 years ago. I'm worried Vixen may release an SXD3 with the next version of Starbook TEN (which looks a bit dated now, especially with that old-school serial cable) within the next year or so.

 

I'd be facing some rather significant buyer's remorse if something like that was released within months after my purchase. 

 

Does anyone have any idea if/when Vixen will release new EQ mounts, perhaps based on prior release cadence or industry rumors?

Interesting issue.  It is always a possibility but there is no indication.  With the recent supply issues it would seems unlikely from a business perspective.  But, I am biased.  I have purchased twelve Vixen mounts in the last five months ---- including two SXD2's - which are quite wonderful.

 

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 05:24 PM

Would be good to know as well. Reading over the Vixen Japanese site, in 2018, they released the SXP2.  


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Posted 09 May 2021 - 11:10 AM

Interesting issue.  It is always a possibility but there is no indication.  With the recent supply issues it would seems unlikely from a business perspective.  But, I am biased.  I have purchased twelve Vixen mounts in the last five months ---- including two SXD2's - which are quite wonderful.

 

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Wow, what an awesome collection! I'm envious bow.gif


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Posted 09 May 2021 - 11:28 AM

Would be good to know as well. Reading over the Vixen Japanese site, in 2018, they released the SXP2.  

 

From what I can tell, the SXP was released in 2012, which would be a 6 year gap between the SXP and SXP2

 

I believe the SXD was released in 2003, and the SXD2 was released in 2013, so 10 years.

 

Based on that (very little information and probably not significant) information, it would seem like an SXD3 would be due for release within the next couple of years. I supposed it's anyone's guess.


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Posted 09 May 2021 - 08:07 PM

Would be good to know as well. Reading over the Vixen Japanese site, in 2018, they released the SXP2.  

I have an SXP2 in addition to two SXD2's.  The P2 is a heavier build.  I use it for a Takahashi TSA120 but the TSA120 would be fine on a D2.



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Posted 09 May 2021 - 08:08 PM

From what I can tell, the SXP was released in 2012, which would be a 6 year gap between the SXP and SXP2

 

I believe the SXD was released in 2003, and the SXD2 was released in 2013, so 10 years.

 

Based on that (very little information and probably not significant) information, it would seem like an SXD3 would be due for release within the next couple of years. I supposed it's anyone's guess.

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Posted 09 May 2021 - 10:47 PM

I actually searched this a while back out of curiosity... sourced from Japanese press releases. I could probably even pin down the month for most of these (e.g. the SXP was release October 2011), but anyway, these should be accurate

 

2003  -  SXW - Starbook

 

2007  -  SXD - Starbook

 

2010  -  AXD - Starbook 10

 

2011  -  SXP - Starbook 10

 

2012  -  SXD2 - Starbook 10

 

2014  -  SX2, AP (Advanced Polaris) - Starbook One

 

2017  -  AXD2, AXJ - Starbook 10

 

2018  -  SXP2 - Starbook 10


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Posted 10 May 2021 - 02:04 AM

The point about the starbook ten and serial cable. That’s the main item that put me off buying the SXP2. It’s not the age of the starbook, it’s nice having a dedicated controller with screen. Better then using the touch interface on sky safari or luminous to control the slewing.

 

The next starbook ten should be wireless, with a rechargeable battery and ruggedised for water/being dropped.

The mount should also expose an INDI protocol so the starbook ten can be bypassed for AP usage.

 

As far as the mount, the SXP2 contains the next generation belt drive tech and materials from the AXJ. I don’t see how vixen can bring that technology down to the SXD3 model.

 

For the money I don’t know another mount that can compete with the SXD2 on weight, so if you can live with the starbook cable and having it connected to a WiFi access point I’d say why wait. If you want next gen save up for the SXP2.


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Posted 10 May 2021 - 07:33 PM

The point about the starbook ten and serial cable. That’s the main item that put me off buying the SXP2. It’s not the age of the starbook, it’s nice having a dedicated controller with screen. Better then using the touch interface on sky safari or luminous to control the slewing.

 

The next starbook ten should be wireless, with a rechargeable battery and ruggedised for water/being dropped.

The mount should also expose an INDI protocol so the starbook ten can be bypassed for AP usage.

 

As far as the mount, the SXP2 contains the next generation belt drive tech and materials from the AXJ. I don’t see how vixen can bring that technology down to the SXD3 model.

 

For the money I don’t know another mount that can compete with the SXD2 on weight, so if you can live with the starbook cable and having it connected to a WiFi access point I’d say why wait. If you want next gen save up for the SXP2.

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Posted 11 May 2021 - 09:20 PM

Vixen is not a company that is constantly redoing their product line. My Sphinx SXW was introduced in 2004 and discontinued in 2014. I don't even have to worry about getting a new serial cable because it uses the same one the SB 10 uses. They made the SP mount for years and when they went to the GP it took all the same motors and controllers as the SP


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Posted 12 May 2021 - 11:19 AM

Yes that's part of why I'm thinking I should wait for the next iteration. If they were releasing new products every year, I wouldn't mind getting last year's model. But since they only release new models in the same line every 8-10 years, I'd prefer to wait until the next release.

 

Honestly I don't see them continuing with a serial port since they're pretty much obsolete. That in turn would suggest a new Starbook would be in the works, perhaps with built-in wifi. 

 

Based on Simon's post above, Starbook Ten is about 11 years old now, so it's due for a refresh.

 

At the same time, I really want an SXD2 right now lol.gif


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Posted 13 May 2021 - 05:12 AM

You may be waiting quite a while. The only reason their first generation Sphinx mounts can not be upgraded to Starbook 10 is because the first generation used servo motors and the second generation uses stepper motors. Some of their current mounts are the AXD2, SPX2 and AJX and  are only 3 to 4 years old and they use Starbook 10 so I don't see them abandoning the StarBook 10 compatibility for a long time. Also the 10 in the name is not the number 10 it is ten the word and means heaven.


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Posted 13 May 2021 - 05:37 AM

But actually I hope your right because if they do come out with an SXD3 then I can get a real nice SXD2 at a bargain price. In my view if the SXD2 is a fantastic mount now it still will be tomorrow.




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