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#1 Dbracknell

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Posted 13 June 2021 - 10:36 PM

Please only provide feedback if you have personally used this kit or any of the individual components from it.

https://www.amazon.c...VCR020F8X&psc=1

I'm looking to find out if this would be a decent set of eyepieces for a budget purchase, or would this be a waste of time and money? Do they provide for decent views within the limits of the scope they are used in? Are the images clear, again barring weather and scope limitations?

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Posted 13 June 2021 - 10:55 PM

Rip-off. The individual Plossls are mediocre. The 6mm is borderline unusable. The Barlow is of extremely low quality. The filters are worthless.


Edited by Augustus, 13 June 2021 - 10:56 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:01 PM

Celestron should be ashamed for offering that kit. They're taking advantage of folks trying to start out in the hobby. You'd be better off for less money buying this entry level zoom and passing on all the junk in that kit  -  https://www.amazon.c...s/dp/B07XZ6DY18


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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:03 PM

Look at the mags.   20, 12, 6.   20 barlowed is 10 (nearly 12), and 12 barlowed is 6. So the eyepieces are not well planed.

You have to hold your eye 5mm from the eye lens.  Quite uncomfortable.   The red filter is not really practical.  

 

What kind of scope do you have or are you considering purchasing?

 

Does it have bundled eyepieces?  What sizes are they.

 

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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:06 PM

Please only provide feedback if you have personally used this kit or any of the individual components from it.

https://www.amazon.c...VCR020F8X&psc=1

I'm looking to find out if this would be a decent set of eyepieces for a budget purchase, or would this be a waste of time and money? Do they provide for decent views within the limits of the scope they are used in? Are the images clear, again barring weather and scope limitations?

Thanks,
David

I see you have an Celestron Omni xlt 102 on an omni CG-4 mount.

 

You don't list eyepieces in your signature.   

 

Let's talk about what you have and what your budget might be so we can advise you about next purchases.

 

Is this your scope?

https://www.highpoin...5xoCZr4QAvD_BwE

 

Aperture: 102 mm (4.02 in)
Focal length: 1000 mm (39.37 in)
Focal ratio: 9.8
Eyepiece: 1 - 25 mm (0.98 in) (40 X)
Finderscope: 6x30

 

Is the 25 mm your only eyepiece?


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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:25 PM

The above posts are a bit harsh - my guess is the OP is looking for a budget kit for someone just starting out, possibly a child.

 

Although looking for a budget starter kit, I would not buy that, it is not a good choice of eyepieces and they've lobbed in stuff you'll never use. 

 

Give us a budget (my guess is $200) and let's see what we can come up with for a set of 3 or 4 new (not secondhand). Come to think of it, I'll make that a challenge.


Edited by luxo II, 13 June 2021 - 11:31 PM.


#7 Dbracknell

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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:34 PM

Aeajr, that is exactly what I have, and yes that's currently my only eyepiece. Everyone, thank you! That's what I was expecting honestly. But I'm still new so I figured run it by those who've been in the hobby longer and have had the experience to say for sure. Luxo, while harsh to some, this is exactly what I was asking for. I wanted straight answers without sugarcoating. Thanks again everyone!
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Posted 13 June 2021 - 11:42 PM

OK, watch this... https://www.cloudyni...et-on-a-budget/


Edited by luxo II, 13 June 2021 - 11:49 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2021 - 12:52 AM

https://www.astronom...ult/?q=Paradigm

 

Seems like the 25, 12, and 8mm would work pretty well on this scope and still cost less than $200


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Posted 14 June 2021 - 01:25 AM

I bought the Celestron version of that set and I have something very good to say about it:  the case works quite well for carrying a variety of other stuff.  Convenient size. 


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Posted 14 June 2021 - 01:44 AM

I bought the Celestron version of that set and I have something very good to say about it:  the case works quite well for carrying a variety of other stuff.  Convenient size. 

 

Harbor Freight sells a variety of Apache or Voyager branded cases at ~1/3 of the kit price the OP referred to. lol.gif



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Posted 14 June 2021 - 06:20 AM

Celestron 8-24 Zoom and a GSO 2x Barlow lens. Gives you all focal lengths from 24 to 4 mm.

Add a GSO, Celestron, meade, 32 mm Plossl eyepiece for low power/wide view.
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Posted 14 June 2021 - 07:14 AM

I was thinking about the celestron 8-24 and pairing it with a barlow. Someone earlier mentioned an svbony 7-21. How are the svbony barlow lenses? For instance this one:
https://www.amazon.c...YXLG45C22&psc=1

The price has me skeptical. But if anyone has actually used it, how good or bad is it?

Thanks!
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Posted 14 June 2021 - 08:29 AM

I have one. It doesn’t get used much because after less than a year in this hobby apparently I’ve somehow become a snob. That being said, the view improves notably if you blacken the edges of the Barlow lens. I used a sharpie, others use paint. Build quality is pretty darn good for how inexpensive it is, I just found I lost contrast. I feel I still do, but the blackened lens helps.

 

One issue is the inside of the Barlow tube is pretty tight-I have trouble getting my Morpheus to slide in and out easily. 
 

Edit: Just checked the link you posted. I have one of those too that came with a classifieds purchase. I was thinking of the SVBony clone of the GSO barlow in my description above. Those plastic things… nah. Hard pass.


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Posted 14 June 2021 - 09:01 AM

I was thinking about the celestron 8-24 and pairing it with a barlow. Someone earlier mentioned an svbony 7-21. How are the svbony barlow lenses? For instance this one:
https://www.amazon.c...YXLG45C22&psc=1

The price has me skeptical. But if anyone has actually used it, how good or bad is it?

Thanks!

I own the Baader Hyperion 8-24 zoom, the Celestron zoom and the SVBony 7-21.

 

SVBony also has an 8-24 which I have not tried.

 

I like them all but of the three the SVBony is the one I use the least.  I like the Celestron better in my smaller scopes.  The Baader is my main eyepiece in my 102 mm refractor and my 12" Dob.

 

However, if you are trying to keep this purchase to a reasonable minimum then:

 

SVBony 7-21 - $51

https://www.amazon.c...23679093&sr=8-3

 

SVBony 2X Barlow - $18

https://www.amazon.c...23679220&sr=8-4

 

These are good quality, not the best but great values.

 

That will get you going.  Then you can plan out the rest of your eyepiece purchases over time.

 

 

 

I have the SVBony 2X Barlow and have a 2X GSO Barlow.  LIke them both.


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Posted 14 June 2021 - 09:05 AM

Awesome! Thank you all!

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Posted 14 June 2021 - 09:26 AM

My two cents:

 

Plossl are good eyepieces, set of well chosen Plossls and a 2X Barlow can be a winner in a 4 inch F/10. 

 

The problem with the kit is that it's too much money for too little.

 

Regardless of which way you go, zoom or Plossl, a 32 mm Plossl would be a valuable addition. It would provide the widest field possible in the 1.25 inch format, about 1.55 degrees.

 

At one time the Celestron eyepiece out was $100 and included a 32 mm Plossl plus a decent 2x Barlow and several other Plossls, I believe the 17 mm, the 12 mm, the 9 mm, the 6 mm and I believe the 4 mm. It had the usual filters and a nice case. The 6 mm and 4 mm were very short on eye relief..

 

But now it's $200..

 

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Posted 14 June 2021 - 10:52 AM

Plossl eyepiece are good eyepieces, but they have one issue, eye relief. This is how close your eye has to be to the lens.

 

A 10 mm would have your eye about 7 mm from the glass and a 5 mm would be half that.  This can be quite uncomfortable.  I don't like Plossls shorter than 10 mm.  to get higher power I would put them in a 2X or 3X Barlow. 

 

So, a 32 mm Plossl, lots of eye relief, becomes a 16 mm in a 2X Barlow.

 

A 12 mm Plossl, with adequate eye relief, would be like a 6 mm in the Barlow but with the eye relief of the 12 mm.

 

Plossls are very good eyepieces  – Good discussion
https://www.cloudyni...s/#entry8285208

 

 

Discussion about Paradigm eyepieces - If you are going for fixed FL eyepieces on a tight budget, these are the ones to get. 

https://www.cloudyni...s/#entry8229760

 

 

How People use Zoom Eyepieces as Part of the Observing Process

https://www.cloudyni...rving-process/ 


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Posted 15 June 2021 - 04:48 PM

Agena Astro has a zoom for $60.  Good quality.  I use it with the grandkids.

 

https://agenaastro.c...h-t-thread.html




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