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#1 jragsdale

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 05:43 PM

Here is that Space Scope that just sold on ShopGoodWill. They did a great job packing, everything was very solid. And the scope, other than the paint, seems to be in good shape. No dents, box is still solid, fairly complete, no clams or fungus.

 

Now to the fun part of dating this old scope!

 

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 05:44 PM

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 05:44 PM

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 06:11 PM

SYW! I didn’t realize they went back quite that far (my Sears 6344 was made by SYW). The Monolux 4380 (RAO) from 1961 that I had used that exact same mount as this Space scope. My guess is that the same foundry did all those mount castings. The RAO Tasco 7Ts used them too. My Monolux had the crinkle finish mount like your Space scope but was grey rather than black. The Tasco 7Ts of that period were a smooth black. Nice find. Have fun. I bet it’s a goodie!


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Posted 23 June 2021 - 06:42 PM

I'm still not sure this is a 50s scope at all, it could be early 60s. Hoping someone can reference the serial to a registry somewhere.


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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:04 PM

funny to see something by research optical company today.  i really knew nothing about them until yesterday (and still not much).

 

i bought a pair of their 20x60 binoculars off ebay canada yesterday (on an offer).  i have seen the research optical label quite a few times on binoculars and they always look like older decent quality japanese.  

 

in my googling last night i did not see any research optical binoculars with j-b marks or with made in occupied japan markings.   that means pre-1959 and post 1952 which roughly matches their style and appearance.  i suspect they were primarily a 1950s company 

 

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:12 PM

SYW! I didn’t realize they went back quite that far (my Sears 6344 was made by SYW). The Monolux 4380 (RAO) from 1961 that I had used that exact same mount as this Space scope. My guess is that the same foundry did all those mount castings. The RAO Tasco 7Ts used them too. My Monolux had the crinkle finish mount like your Space scope but was grey rather than black. The Tasco 7Ts of that period were a smooth black. Nice find. Have fun. I bet it’s a goodie!

I'd bet good money it's a goodie.

Nice score.



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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:44 PM

I don't know about your scope, but I'm quite sure some of these were 1950's-era, as mine is stamped 1957.  Here's a picture of the interior of the case with the original manual: 

 

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Note the printing on the interior of the lid, a close-up of which is attached below:

 

Space Scope 1957.JPG

 

As you can see, it is clearly marked "1957".  Also of note are the primitive green canvas lid restraints and the brown felt packing bags that are hand tied and used to pad the various components of the scope to keep them from banging around and getting scratched.  Overall, it is a great scope, and the images are impressive for a 60 mm.

 

What a great find on Goodwill. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. Thanks for sharing your find, and the pictures.

 

Brett

 

 


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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:51 PM

Brett, does yours have a hinged or solid tube clamp?



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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:53 PM

I'm still not sure this is a 50s scope at all, it could be early 60s. Hoping someone can reference the serial to a registry somewhere.

Based on the S/N + SYW... 1961/62...  [#9841 is 1963]


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Posted 23 June 2021 - 07:59 PM

Brett, does yours have a hinged or solid tube clamp?

Mine has the solid tube clamp, with a friction shoe that sits between the optical tube and the thumb screws to hold it I place .

 

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Posted 23 June 2021 - 08:03 PM

Mine has the solid tube clamp, with a friction shoe that sits between the optical tube and the thumb screws to hold it I place .

 

Brett

All of these, including the earliest Tasco version with the crinkle paint, seem to have the same mount and focuser casts. I wonder if the tube clamp style is the best way to determine a separating date.



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Posted 23 June 2021 - 11:01 PM

Based on the S/N + SYW... 1961/62...  [#9841 is 1963]

Thank you! Do you know what the AE-60 is referencing on the manual? Isn't that a Carton model number? And the manual lists very different eyepiece focal lengths than what I have with this set.



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Posted 23 June 2021 - 11:06 PM

All the shiny chrome parts polished up to a mirror. The lens schmeg was all external, very light cleaning got 90% of it. There's a little haze internally, but I'll wait to worry about that. Views to terrestrial targets are SHARP! Definitely need to DPAC this bad boy for sure.



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Posted 24 June 2021 - 12:15 AM

Thank you! Do you know what the AE-60 is referencing on the manual? Isn't that a Carton model number? And the manual lists very different eyepiece focal lengths than what I have with this set.

SYW used the AE designation on many models. From looking at their catalogs my guess is that it means Astronomical Equatorial.

 

http://yumarin7.saku...n/SYW_USAQ1.pdf

 

One thing I find interesting is that it has that side mounted accessory tray (beer holder), that I believe is usually seen on the ones with a captive tube clamp and no makers mark. I don't believe I've seen that on any SWY model before. Also, If I interpreted what Stephen is saying correctly the silver rectagular inspection sticker is thought to be from around 1960.

 

https://www.cloudyni...lick/?p=7099732


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Posted 24 June 2021 - 02:11 AM

I captured a quick 90 second video of the moon at prime focus with an ASI533MC Pro tonight. Stacked the best 500 frames. Sharp!

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Posted 24 June 2021 - 02:30 AM

Cam on scope 

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Posted 24 June 2021 - 03:08 AM

I captured a quick 90 second video of the moon at prime focus with an ASI533MC Pro tonight. Stacked the best 500 frames. Sharp!

Beautiful! Really, SYW did great optics those times gone by....


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