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#1 Pokemoncrusher1

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 04:00 PM

Looking for a cheap hand held to compliment a 15x70 I was planning to buy mounted. Any recommendations? I don't know if I should get 8x42 or 10x50 mainly because I have a family member who I am not sure can hold 10x50s. 

Do I lose that much by going with 8x42s? Do note the aperture is gonna be stopped down at this range.. So far I have been looking at the aculons because all of orions offerings are backordered and pentax binos have too low of an fov.

I was also looking at potentally the 11x56 LW but again think it might be too high power. 

Thanks 


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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:42 PM

I like these 8x42 for easy hand-held alternative.  Though I guess "cheap" is relative.  More than about 7x or 8x can get challenging for hand-held.

 

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:49 PM

With 10x50's you can steady them against the wall of a building or sturdy post, or with your elbows on top of a car or (best of all) on the armrests of a reclining chair. Even my 7x35's need something like that, I've found, if I want to see the moons of Jupiter for example. I've found both magnifications to be useful, so why not get both?

 

As for cheap, I've had luck with online auctions, getting some good glass for a song -- although I did have to open up one pair of Nikon 10x50's for internal cleaning, and also as a DIYer I do my own (relative) alignment tweaks.


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Posted 10 July 2021 - 05:58 PM

Im now thinking im probably just going to pick up good 10x50s instead of the LW 15x70, the collimation and shorter warranty draws me away from them and I think id probably be better just getting a good 10x50 instead of a decent 15x70. Especially since they are stopped down to around 60mm/ Anyone else think this is the right train of thought? 


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Posted 10 July 2021 - 06:18 PM

I use my 10 x 50 more than the 15x70s 


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Posted 10 July 2021 - 06:36 PM

I have the Nikon 10x50 AE and have been quite satisfied with the performance. 

 

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 06:51 PM

Looking for a cheap hand held to compliment a 15x70 I was planning to buy mounted. Any recommendations? I don't know if I should get 8x42 or 10x50 mainly because I have a family member who I am not sure can hold 10x50s. 

Do I lose that much by going with 8x42s? Do note the aperture is gonna be stopped down at this range.. So far I have been looking at the aculons because all of orions offerings are backordered and pentax binos have too low of an fov.

I was also looking at potentally the 11x56 LW but again think it might be too high power. 

Thanks 

I use an 8x42, 7x50, and 10x50 for astronomy. The 10x50 out perform the 7x50, which out performs the 8x42. I find the 3# 7x50 and 10x50 easier to hold steady than the 28 oz 8x42. 


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Posted 10 July 2021 - 08:07 PM

Im now thinking im probably just going to pick up good 10x50s instead of the LW 15x70, the collimation and shorter warranty draws me away from them and I think id probably be better just getting a good 10x50 instead of a decent 15x70. Especially since they are stopped down to around 60mm/ Anyone else think this is the right train of thought? 

I agree. Once you have used the 10x50's for a while you will be more able to decide if you want the bigger ones as well, and with more experience you will be clearer in your mind as to exactly what you want (plus have more time to save up, and therefore get a better model than the LW's anyway!). Plus, the 10x50's are a good all-rounder that you can use daytime and will probably keep forever, even if you go down a telescope path.

 

All the best,

 

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Posted 10 July 2021 - 10:50 PM

The Nikon AE 10x50 is the most recommended astronomy binocular on this forum and I agree with that. It is ruggedly made, armor coated, water proof, well balanced and very sharp optically. It's also a very good value and hard to beat for $175 (B&H Photo). There are pros and cons to the light weight binoculars. Oberwerk double checks every pair he sells so that's a big plus but you will have to treat them with care. I've had no trouble with the two I purchased. Good luck with your choices! watching.gif



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Posted 15 July 2021 - 07:28 PM

Went ahead and picked up the NIKON AEs,

So far I am really not impressed with these AEs. I may have a lemon though. But so far it does not look good considering even the eyepieces are 100 percent WHITE glass. Only the bottom corner of the objectives are coated as well. I understand they aren't FULLY coated but the fact that there is zero evidence of coatings where they are supposed to be is really not a good sign. 


Edited by Pokemoncrusher1, 15 July 2021 - 07:30 PM.



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