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7/28/21 player one imx464 first light, Jupiter and Saturn

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#1 GSBass

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:29 AM

got up at 330am, first shots at 415 and continued til 540, excited but a whole day of processing to do .,,, as expected dew was bad but all I did was set my umbrella up and it worked with no dew heaters, the umbrella was soaked but all my equipment and optics stayed dry, I’ll be processing lunar images later that I took with the new cam and will add them to that forum

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:29 AM

Dew shield

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:31 AM

Saturn this morning with player one Neptune, this is the imx464 sensor that has the same specs as the 462c, just 4mp instead of 2mp, just got one shot of Saturn, it was setting in the trees by the time I got set up

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:34 AM

Jupiter this morning, I have about 7 I’ll add, mostly similar but just processed a little different, the player one cam did well on this, three moons from right to left ganymede , io Europa…. I took one shot at the end of the session where I was able to squeeze in Callisto… that’s the first time I’ve gotten 4 with a properly exposed Jupiter 

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:35 AM

Jupiter in infrared, switched to the astronomik 642 ir filter to get a feel for how well the camera performed in IR… pretty nice, detail looks good

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:36 AM

A crop of the infrared shot, sharpened some more to see the structure

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:37 AM

A crop of #6 with more sharpening and a soft contrast filter

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 08:41 AM

So over all the Player One Neptune 464 is a worthy contender…. Not seeing any issues with planetary that would make me prefer my 462c so far…. I’ll be processing the lunar photos in a bit so will see how those look


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:21 AM

I did not change resolution to hd to see if the FPS would be equivalent to the 462c…. Meant to but forgot, these images averaged 92fps


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:07 AM

Probably should mention the umbrella again…. I know people use dew heaters etc… but I honestly can’t imagine dew being worse than this morning…. Almost to the point I didn’t want to take my stuff out, but the umbrella worked, I kept the edge just shy of obstruction and nothing dewed while stuff 3ft away were wet in a matter of minutes


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:14 AM

Great Shots GS!!

 

Never heard of the Umbrella technique... How does that work exactly?

 

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:31 AM

Something to do with radial cooling… that umbrella has like a silver coating on the inside so I’m guessing a combo of being semi covered and heat from me and the laptop was enough to keep everything from reaching dew point…. I kinda kept expecting the end of the mak would dew eventually since it was stick out some but it never did

Great Shots GS!!

 

Never heard of the Umbrella technique... How does that work exactly?

 

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:58 AM

Have you used the camera with Firecapture?

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 11:24 AM

No just sharpcap, a couple of capture oddities but it did fine, noticed after I stopped a capture it would save it normally but the cam acted like it was still capturing until I hit stop a second time, then I could continue normally. 



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 12:43 PM

Lunar images are up https://www.cloudyni...64-first-light/



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 01:26 PM

How do you like the flip mirror setup?  I've considered the same thing since I don't have GOTO and have to manually acquire with an eyepiece, and then switch to the camera (which requires some reacquiring and then refocusing).

 

Which model do you have?



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 02:27 PM

Hi, I love it, I currently am using the astromania brand but I just found a discontinued Meade 647 2” version, waiting for it to arrive now. I decided I wanted two because the player one cam has to be screwed on to be parfocal with the reticle, my other cams are the tube type that insert into a 1.25 …. So anyway long story short, I’m just trying to make it easier to swap between scopes and cameras and the flip mirrors make it easy…. I have a goto but if your off by a little it can be hard getting a planet on your small chip

How do you like the flip mirror setup?  I've considered the same thing since I don't have GOTO and have to manually acquire with an eyepiece, and then switch to the camera (which requires some reacquiring and then refocusing).

 

Which model do you have?



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 03:22 PM

Yes, in a  Fisching- Umbrellar- Tent as a mobile garden observatory you are always sheltert against dew and light. If the planets are not directly above you, of course.

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 03:47 PM

It just makes me wonder why everyone does not do this instead of installing heaters , I actually bought mine as a sun blocker for daytime infrared but had no idea it would work so well as a dew shield

Yes, in a  Fisching- Umbrellar- Tent as a mobile garden observatory you are always sheltert against dew and light. If the planets are not directly above you, of course.

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 04:07 PM

I love the fishing umbrella idea!



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Posted 28 July 2021 - 04:34 PM

The 9ft sport Brella is the one I have, usually can get a good one half price at the Amazon warehouse, they usually describe what’s wrong with it, sometime it’s just because it’s not in original box, mine came brand new https://www.amazon.c...776&sr=8-3&th=1


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Posted 28 July 2021 - 09:13 PM

I mentioned earlier at the end of my session I looked through the eyepiece and saw 4 moons, so I readjusted to try to capture them, this is the good part of having a 16x9 larger planetary chip, I was very lucky to get 3 with the 462 …. So anyway, starting at upper right, Ganymede, Io, Europa and Callisto , the image of Jupiter is not as good as my others but still cool

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Posted 28 July 2021 - 10:05 PM

Note for newbies… the easiest way to identify the moons is go to sky safari, adjust the time and date you took the shot and then simply zoom in on Jupiter, they will be labeled at their position…. Only issue is during the day sky safari assumes you can’t see them so does not show them…. They need to rethink that now that infrared is possible for amateurs…. I can usually figure it out though by going back ir forward in to darkness and see where they are



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Posted 29 July 2021 - 05:31 AM

Nice images! I have thought about trying some sort of umbrella/tarp cover vs. using my wife's hair/telescope dryer.

You've convinced me to go forward!

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Posted 29 July 2021 - 07:28 AM

I imagine just like a regular dew shield it would just delay however it was 99% humidity and I was out almost 2 hours…. Also I was serious that the silver lining combined with just my body heat sitting in there is likely the reason it worked so well. Everything stayed 100% dry, the top of the umbrella was wet and I had laid my nylon telescope cover on the driveway a few feet away and it was soaked also…. So anyway, I’m convinced and will now set it up anytime there is a dew threat, only thing is you can’t have wind, you don’t want a 10ft pole flying around your equipment and it would because it’s not tied down, you need to be able to adjust its position when you slew to something else

Nice images! I have thought about trying some sort of umbrella/tarp cover vs. using my wife's hair/telescope dryer.

You've convinced me to go forward!

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