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#1 grif 678

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Posted 05 August 2021 - 09:00 PM

Back in the early 80's, Meade had a 4 inch refractor on their equatorial mount, it sold for around $900 to $1000. This is not the newer LX 55 models, but the earlier, better built version. The best I can remember, without going through my magazines, it was model 4054 or 4500, or something close. It was a F-10. I have never seen one of these for sell on CN. Does anyone have one, or has any body seen one for sell. Would like to know how the optics were on these. As good as the optics were on the 80mm 310 and 312, I would expect the optics on the 4 inch to be excellent.



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Posted 05 August 2021 - 09:27 PM

Are you referring to the 102ED models. Ed Ting summarized his views at 

https://www.scoperev...m/page1f.html#2

 

Perhaps you are thinking of something earlier though. 



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 05:44 AM

Only 4" i knew they sold in the early 80's was that fancy Unitron look a like that cost a arm in a leg. In the later 80's they had the blue tube stuff but no 4" that i can remember until the 90's.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 12:40 PM

They did have a 4" on a nice equatorial mount, but I think that was in the late '70's.  If I correctly recall, they were in the early Crown Optical ads. 



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 03:54 PM

I will look it up in my magazines later, and get back. It was not the ED model.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 04:03 PM

Seems Meade was all about Newtonians until they went head to head with Celestron building SCTs. I do remember they had an 80mm refractor in equatorial and Alt/Az versions. Then they offered the ED models in 4" and 5" and 7" I think. Seems they had a lot of issues with the lens cells on those.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 05:00 PM

They did have a 4" on a nice equatorial mount, but I think that was in the late '70's.  If I correctly recall, they were in the early Crown Optical ads. 

I worked at Meade at the time, but I don't remember a 4" achromat (except the unitron knock off in the showroom for years).


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Posted 06 August 2021 - 05:57 PM

I worked at Meade at the time, but I don't remember a 4" achromat (except the unitron knock off in the showroom for years).

That was the only 4" they sold until the 90's.  They also tried to copy the SP-C8 with the GEM SCT that was a flop in later 1987.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 05:58 PM

Seems Meade was all about Newtonians until they went head to head with Celestron building SCTs. I do remember they had an 80mm refractor in equatorial and Alt/Az versions. Then they offered the ED models in 4" and 5" and 7" I think. Seems they had a lot of issues with the lens cells on those.

It was the 7" ED as i was lucky enough to have a bad one back in 1999.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 08:06 PM

It was not the ED version, I found the ad. In the December 1986 Astronomy magazine. There is a two page ad at the back from National Camera Exchange.

Listed among many other telescopes is:

Meade 440 , a 4" German equatorial refracting telescope, complete with 40X and 111X  MA eyepieces. It sells for $1149.

So Meade did sell a 4" achromatic telescope back then, not being an ED.



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Posted 06 August 2021 - 10:40 PM

It was not the ED version, I found the ad. In the December 1986 Astronomy magazine. There is a two page ad at the back from National Camera Exchange.

Listed among many other telescopes is:

Meade 440 , a 4" German equatorial refracting telescope, complete with 40X and 111X  MA eyepieces. It sells for $1149.

So Meade did sell a 4" achromatic telescope back then, not being an ED.

There are a few posts here on the 440 series, it was made by Towa. Search for Meade 447.



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Posted 07 August 2021 - 03:34 AM

The first paragraph explains the series. It appears that the 440 was one of the versions of the Unitron clone and yes it's a Towa.

 

https://www.cloudyni...tor-model-447/ 


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Posted 07 August 2021 - 05:24 AM

It was not the ED version, I found the ad. In the December 1986 Astronomy magazine. There is a two page ad at the back from National Camera Exchange.

Listed among many other telescopes is:

Meade 440 , a 4" German equatorial refracting telescope, complete with 40X and 111X  MA eyepieces. It sells for $1149.

So Meade did sell a 4" achromatic telescope back then, not being an ED.

That is the 4" i was talking about.


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Posted 07 August 2021 - 09:29 AM

That is the 4" i was talking about.

Me too. 


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Posted 07 August 2021 - 01:57 PM

Me too. 

Me three. 


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Posted 07 August 2021 - 02:21 PM

Also meself


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Posted 09 August 2021 - 07:25 PM

Seems Meade was all about Newtonians until they went head to head with Celestron building SCTs. I do remember they had an 80mm refractor in equatorial and Alt/Az versions. Then they offered the ED models in 4" and 5" and 7" I think. Seems they had a lot of issues with the lens cells on those.

4,5,6,7.  I've had 3 of the 4's and one of the 5's and they were all good, the 4's performance was just shy of an AP Traveler.  Though I did see a 7 inch with a runaway R.A. drive.  Happened usually when people ordered the Goto as an accessory and fried the driver board trying to install it.


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Posted 09 August 2021 - 07:41 PM

Meade was all about 60mm and 80mm scopes they did not even make when i first got into scopes in 1976. They had many parts and finders and such. Then in later 78 they got into Newts. Then around 1981 SCT's. Then it was a race with Meade Celestron to make the best SCT for many years.


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Posted 09 August 2021 - 07:43 PM

4,5,6,7.  I've had 3 of the 4's and one of the 5's and they were all good, the 4's performance was just shy of an AP Traveler.  Though I did see a 7 inch with a runaway R.A. drive.  Happened usually when people ordered the Goto as an accessory and fried the driver board trying to install it.

My 5" ED with a LXD600 mount would do go-to's on it's own and hit the tripod. It was a good scope but not TAK FS128 by a long shot good.  The 7" ED i had was a total hunk of junk that spent more time in a box coming and going from Meade.




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