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#401 MisterDan

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 04:58 PM

It does look like a blue and gray version of my Mayflower 814.  It's marked diamond BOL, which I think is "Bushnell Optical Labs", which they used for special projects with Japanese manufacturers.  So it could definitely be an SYW (or APL?).   Here's my box minus the OTA.  SGW has rotated two of the styrofoam pieces wrong (and left the objective cell off to rattle around).

 

 

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It would also be nice to confirm the presence of the drawtube, as well.  (Visual back is there, apparently.)

-And, you know, perhaps... maybe... if it's not too much trouble... could we see a shot of the objective?...  grin.gif

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 05:32 PM

Vintage-Edmund Scientific Telescope w/Wooden Case ... https://www.shopgood.../Item/130117118


I don’t think the wooden box is original.


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 05:47 PM

18" Z Scope for $1650 in East Texas

 

https://houston.crai...7380641945.html


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 05:58 PM

Vintage-Edmund Scientific Telescope w/Wooden Case ... https://www.shopgood.../Item/130117118


Pretty sure this is the ad from Edmund.  This particular ad is from the 1962 catalog but I believe this scope was advertised earlier.  If my math is correct this would have a FL of F 24

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:03 PM

18" Z Scope for $1850 in East Texas

 

https://houston.crai...7380641945.html

What a Tank.  If it had a Zambuto in it the price would be super good.


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:06 PM

That’s a nice scope at a reasonable price. One seldom sees a 5” AP triplet for two grand.

Bet it is gone. Mount is too small but would work with other scopes.


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:47 PM

It would also be nice to confirm the presence of the drawtube, as well.  (Visual back is there, apparently.)

-And, you know, perhaps... maybe... if it's not too much trouble... could we see a shot of the objective?...  grin.gif

 

Cheers.

Dan

Indeed.  

 

BTW this scope will accept a Vixen 1.25" adapter.  Modern 1.25" eyepieces will really wake it up.  I even got a Takahashi diagonal for my Mayflower, as it deserved it.  


 

#408 RichA

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:59 PM

Classic 5 inch f6 AP with modern Bresser mount..

https://detroit.crai...7380089212.html

Wow! Ta

 

What would be the vintage on that?  I’ve never heard of an A-P 5 inch f/6 APO triplet.

Very early?

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:00 PM

Pretty sure this is the ad from Edmund.  This particular ad is from the 1962 catalog but I believe this scope was advertised earlier.  If my math is correct this would have a FL of F 24

I think our fellow Classics Forum contributor Bill (Bonco2), had one of those when he was growing up and posted an old black-and-white snapshot of it once.


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:18 PM

Bet it is gone. Mount is too small but would work with other scopes.

Yes, I agree. I didn’t think it was the best mount for the scope. The last time I looked the price had been lowered $200.


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:29 PM

Orion 120x1000 skyview pro refractor with mount , tripod , EP , diagonal & finder & bracket ... PU only , North Carolina ... https://www.shopgood.../Item/130068991


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:16 PM

Orion 120x1000 skyview pro refractor with mount , tripod , EP , diagonal & finder & bracket ... PU only , North Carolina ... https://www.shopgood.../Item/130068991


When did Orion start importing from China?
 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:18 PM

Here's the Manon version of the 60 x 700 scope like the Mayflower 814.  In a pre-styrofoam box.

 

https://www.shopgood.../Item/129989594


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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:23 PM

And a Mayflower 813, which is not the same scope as an 814.  This is a Towa on a yoke mount.  But it looks like it's never been used.

 

https://www.shopgood.../Item/129981342


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:39 PM

Here's the Manon version of the 60 x 700 scope like the Mayflower 814. In a pre-styrofoam box.

https://www.shopgood.../Item/129989594

Looks like all three spacers are sitting next to each other. I wonder if that lens would clean up ok.
 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 10:43 PM

Final price on the Vixen 80 =  $326 , I think it was fair , a tad high ...

Orion/Vixen Refractor  Telescope with Extra Lenses , wood tripod & nice simple mount with slo-mo. No pic of the tag , so I cannot quote a size ... I like this ... No lens pics , bid is $10 now , 7 days ... https://www.shopgood.../Item/129712013


 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 10:58 PM

It does look like a blue and gray version of my Mayflower 814.  It's marked diamond BOL, which I think is "Bushnell Optical Labs", which they used for special projects with Japanese manufacturers.  So it could definitely be an SYW (or APL?).   Here's my box minus the OTA.  SGW has rotated two of the styrofoam pieces wrong (and left the objective cell off to rattle around).

 

 

attachicon.gifIMG_1551.jpeg

The one currently on SGW is most likely a APL and most Sky Chief Jrs that show up are APLs. Some are marked as such and some are not, but they can be identified as being APL by some of the characteristics of their components. For example the angled finder mount on the tube is seen on some APLs but never on a SWY nor the slightly rounded inner surface of the outer tripod legs. The same thing applies to finders mounted on the focuser. Some APLs have a straight mount on the focuser, but no SYW made 60/700mms has ever had the finder mounted on the focuser. Their mounts are straight and mounted on the tube. It's kind of complicated but once you know it's easy to tell.

 

Some SC Jrs may have been HOC but I don't remember ever seeing one marked as such and since some APLs can have the same. features it would be hard to tell. Just like Mayflower the newest Jrs were made by SYW and can also be ID by their details and usually have SYW on the pinion cover. It appears that Bushnell and Mayflower used all three of these makers. Manons can be found marked HOC and APL, but a SYW Manon has never been seen. One day maybe I'll do a thread with photos illustrating their differences.

 

Personally I think there's some kind of direct connection between HOC and APL with the HOCs being older.

 

As for the drawtube, these have a one piece rack tube that retracks all the way in when stored and yes a Vixen 1.25" VB will fit.

 

BTW, your foam inserts should be rotated 180° with the legs in the back and spaced like below

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My incomplete spare 814 is in the box.


Edited by Kasmos, 16 September 2021 - 02:35 AM.

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:52 PM

Final price on the Vixen 80 =  $326 , I think it was fair , a tad high ...

That was a 80? I thought it was a 60mm.


 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 12:34 AM

Other much more knowledgeable members than me said 80mm , I don't know definitively ... 

I think it's an 80mm, based on looking at my 102M here in person...

 

I would like VERY much to have that tripod and mount.

 

$38 shipping to me.  

 

I might bid on this one if it doesn't get crazy.

 

 

EDIT:  or maybe 90mm

 


Edited by Piaget, 16 September 2021 - 01:15 AM.

 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 01:51 AM

The seller added a bunch more pictures today, including this one, looks like a chipped objective, that'll take a lot more off the top.

I'm wondering if the lens has been knapped or if it is "just"a deposit left after a night or two of heavy dew while the telescope was in the up position? Regardless the scope appears to be a bit beaten up. 


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Posted 16 September 2021 - 02:11 AM

Other much more knowledgeable members than me said 80mm , I don't know definitively ... 

 Definitely a 80. Due to it's model year the focuser is a little different, but it's basically the same scope as this Celestron/Vixen Premium 80. Which BTW, sold for almost exactly the same price. 

 

https://www.cloudyni...-1980s-vintage/


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Posted 16 September 2021 - 06:08 AM

The one currently on SGW is most likely a APL and most Sky Chief Jrs that show up are APLs. Some are marked as such and some are not, but they can be identified as being APL by some of the characteristics of their components. For example the angled finder mount on the tube is seen on some APLs but never on a SWY nor the slightly rounded inner surface of the outer tripod legs. The same thing applies to finders mounted on the focuser. Some APLs have a straight mount on the focuser, but no SYW made 60/700mms has ever had the finder mounted on the focuser. Their mounts are straight and mounted on the tube. It's kind of complicated but once you know it's easy to tell.

 

Some SC Jrs may have been HOC but I don't remember ever seeing one marked as such and since some APLs can have the same. features it would be hard to tell. Just like Mayflower the newest Jrs were made by SYW and can also be ID by their details and usually have SYW on the pinion cover. It appears that Bushnell and Mayflower used all three of these makers. Manons can be found marked HOC and APL, but a SYW Manon has never been seen. One day maybe I'll do a thread with photos illustrating their differences.

 

Personally I think there's some kind of direct connection between HOC and APL with the HOCs being older.

 

As for the drawtube, these have a one piece rack tube that retracks all the way in when stored and yes a Vixen 1.25" VB will fit.

 

BTW, your foam inserts should be rotated 180° with the legs in the back and spaced like below

attachicon.gifMay-Twins-box.jpg

My incomplete spare 814 is in the box.

That is excellent info.  You should do a thread.  I suspect my box will be easier to close when I rotate the styrofoam correctly.


 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 06:09 AM

Final price on the Vixen 80 =  $326 , I think it was fair , a tad high ...

 

I set a personal limit of $300 and watched it blow past that in the last few minutes.


Edited by norvegicus, 16 September 2021 - 06:14 AM.

 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 06:13 AM

 

 Definitely a 80. Due to it's model year the focuser is a little different, but it's basically the same scope as this Celestron/Vixen Premium 80. Which BTW, sold for almost exactly the same price. 

 

https://www.cloudyni...-1980s-vintage/

Yep.   $599 MSRP when new, about 20 years ago

 

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Edited by norvegicus, 16 September 2021 - 06:13 AM.

 

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Posted 16 September 2021 - 08:38 AM

Just for fun...

 

https://zenmarket.jp...Code=k299106662 - This IS a classic telescope, isn't it? LOL

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=d1000774382

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=t1005008028

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=t1002255291 - Needs some TLC.

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=n1002282299 - Classic maybe? For the connoisseur with deep pockets! LOL

 

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