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#1 TyneVA

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 02:01 AM

Good morning from the UK everyone!

 

I'm hoping that you will be able to give me some advice and assistance with a Carl Zeiss item/lenses that came to us via an estate clearance.

 

Attached are some pictures, this isn't an area that I'm at all familiar with, but of course want to do the best for my clients.

 

The 6067 reference is, as you can see, quite pitted, and the font style suggests some age.

 

Your suggestions would be very much appreciated!

 

Best wishes

 

Gerard

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#2 Astrojensen

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 03:49 AM

The scope is an 80mm, presumably an E80/1200, but exactly what type it is can only be determined by an inspection of the lens cell. 

 

The scope is old! There is no Zeiss logo on the focuser, which indicate that it's from before June/July 1904! The eyepieces have inscriptions in cursive, which also indicate a high age, before WW1.

 

Given the amount of accessories and fairly good condition, I'd estimate a value of ~4k euro. More, if you have more accessories and the original mount.

 

 

Clear skies!

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#3 TyneVA

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 03:59 AM

Good morning Thomas

 

Thank you so much for your swift response.

 

I will take a very close look to see if there are any additional references on the scope, but it's incredible to learn the age of this item!  I did have my hopes of course, especially with the font style.

 

Let me take a closer look and if I can see any additional information I will be sure to post.

 

Best wishes

Gerard


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Posted 14 September 2021 - 04:29 AM

Great looking scope!  Looking forward to what the experts tell you; starting with Thomas.  More pictures please!

 

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#5 TyneVA

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:20 AM

Thanks for your help so far.  These pics are the only ones that I can find to include some detail.  Pic 1 is the lens at the end of the scope, pic 2 is the eyepiece extended out, and pic 3 is the stand it came with.  The clasps look old, not sure about the actual stand itself.

 

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Gerard

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:15 AM

The objective serial number is VERY low! One of the lowest I've seen. The stand appears to be original. 

 

 

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Thomas, Denmark


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#7 TyneVA

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:16 AM

Thank you Thomas, that is really good information.  I will keep checking.

 

Kind regards

Gerard



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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:42 AM

Wow! What a great scope! Let us know how it performs. I'll wager that it will be very good to excellent.
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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:37 PM

Those are some beautiful eyepieces.

All these photos..and no objective? you're pretty good at keeping us interested lol.gif



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Posted 14 September 2021 - 09:55 PM

Hi everyone,

 

Fantastic telescope and as Thomas says, "rare and very early",possibly pre 1900. I will attach a drawing from Astro 8 describing this telescope.The mount it is on is called a "Table top mount". Zeiss made it in  60mm and 80mm versions. All of you that have had early experiuence with Zeiss refractors know how heavy they are for the aperture. It would be very interesting to see how stable it is. I would also like to know if it has a storage box.

 

Enjoy the page from Astro 8 which was printed in 1906,

Dan

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 10:03 PM

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#12 TyneVA

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 12:22 AM

Thank you Dan, yes that is the stand!  There is no storage box unfortunately, I have posted photos of all the different pieces that came to us.  Hopefully it is complete and I will check on what we can actually see through the scope over the weekend.  Thanks to everyone who has helped, it is great to learn something about a beautiful item.  

 

Kind regards

Gerard



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Posted 15 September 2021 - 01:25 AM

One word of warning: if you are going to use the scope, please do not try to clean the optics unless you really know what you are doing. It is VERY easy to scratch the lens or an eyepiece. A little dust won't hurt the scope, incorrect cleaning will.
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#14 TyneVA

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 03:44 AM

Hi Paul, thanks for the advice, but be assured we won’t be touching the lenses.  I agree, a little dust won’t be an issue.

 

Kind regards

 

Gerard


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Posted 18 September 2021 - 07:25 PM

Very Fine and unusual 80mm ZEISS Refractor that is 100% Correct! The 80mm Table Top was available in different configurations depending on what the customer wanted to specifically use it for. For example: due due to it's size, a counterpoise could be added to offset the weight on the tailpiece with an added large accessory.

I own the 60mm version which is of course is considerably smaller and in a fitted wooden case.

Thanks for sharing this early C. 1900's telescope with us.

Best,

John Mutch, III


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Posted 19 September 2021 - 12:44 AM

Good morning from the UK everyone!

 

I'm hoping that you will be able to give me some advice and assistance with a Carl Zeiss item/lenses that came to us via an estate clearance.

 

Attached are some pictures, this isn't an area that I'm at all familiar with, but of course want to do the best for my clients.

 

The 6067 reference is, as you can see, quite pitted, and the font style suggests some age.

 

Your suggestions would be very much appreciated!

 

Best wishes

 

Gerard

I wonder if the tube's white color is original? 



#17 Dan /schechter

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Posted 19 September 2021 - 01:41 AM

From whnat i can see from a picture, my GUESS is yes. Color amnd texture are probabl;y original.



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Posted 19 September 2021 - 02:57 AM

Where can someone bid on the scope? I would be interested.

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Posted 19 September 2021 - 07:09 PM

Good morning from the UK everyone!

 

I'm hoping that you will be able to give me some advice and assistance with a Carl Zeiss item/lenses that came to us via an estate clearance.

 

Attached are some pictures, this isn't an area that I'm at all familiar with, but of course want to do the best for my clients.

 

The 6067 reference is, as you can see, quite pitted, and the font style suggests some age.

 

Your suggestions would be very much appreciated!

 

Best wishes

 

Gerard

Could use a picture of the front lens.



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Posted 19 September 2021 - 07:14 PM

I just wandered into this post and just got amazed by how good the telescope looks. It is more than a century old! It is older than a lot of countries on Earth… it looks more like a 30-40 year-old item than a century-old one. The owners must have kept it with decent care; a true heirloom item.

#21 TyneVA

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 01:41 AM

Hi, please find attached some pictures of the front lens as requested by Skylab.

 

Thanks

Gerard

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:33 AM

Front lens?



#23 TyneVA

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:36 AM

Hi, front lens posted above at 7.41am, hope these are sufficient.

 

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Posted 20 September 2021 - 09:58 AM

The front lens is the big one at the opposite end to the focuser - a photo would be great waytogo.gif



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Posted 20 September 2021 - 10:56 AM

Hi David

 

Sorry, my mistake, photo attached as requested.

 

Kind regards

Gerard

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