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#1 mxcoppell

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Posted 21 September 2021 - 11:48 AM

[With the discussion among CNers, this Astcam Seller is definitely a high risk. Don't buy from them.] 

 

Just noticed there is another camera vendor popped up - https://www.astronom...-cooled-cameras

 

It seems they only sell their product on Aliexpress. Digging a little more into their page, looks like it's a clone of ZWO?

But the price looks pretty attractive, by average $1000 lower than ZWO on IMX455 and IMX571.

 

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Wondering if any CNers already dived for it? 


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 12:00 PM

More likely Touptek clones (or re-brands), not ZWO.

 

http://www.touptek.c...?lang=en&id=298

 

Their price for the 2600MC-Pro is only $300 less than I paid for the ZWO.  With drivers I know work, and an established company.  :)



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 12:03 PM

I don't think so, Paul. Look at the USB ports. It's exactly the same as ZWO. And their driver download page... LOL


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 01:03 PM

IMHO, not worth it. Software and drivers are every bit as important as the hardware. Which of these companies will be keeping them current for the next 5+ years? Which will still be in business? Which has an installed base to ensure 3rd party solutions if they don't?



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 01:15 PM

Good points, Dave. I think the software support part is extremely important nowadays. 



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Posted 21 September 2021 - 01:16 PM

I don't think so, Paul. Look at the USB ports. It's exactly the same as ZWO. And their driver download page... LOL

Yeah, on further examination, I think you're right. 

ZWO outlet store? :)


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 01:30 PM

Paul, it must be some copycat/pirate job. I would assume from hardware design to software internals they are the same. On the other hand, I am especially not happy about ZWO pricing recently. Given an example of QHY294m and ZWO294mm, the ZWO version is whopping $300 more expensive. 

 

Looks like ZWO is winning out consumer cooled AP camera market and the price is in free-flying mode. This is no good news to APers. I'd like to see more competitions. 


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 02:09 PM

https://www.cloudyni...le-scam-warning


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 02:22 PM

Wow...

 


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 03:07 PM

Wow...

Wow, indeed.  No wonder their "support" page on their copied website includes an EAF that isn't in their products page... :)


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Posted 21 September 2021 - 11:32 PM

Plagiarism is always much cheaper


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Posted 22 September 2021 - 07:28 AM

Looks to me what Astcam is doing is not simple copying. This is stealing. 

 

Great to see OCAL here!

 

Plagiarism is always much cheaper



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 07:31 AM

Remove the "t" from Atscam and what do you get?

 

I dunno, maybe it's legit but I doubt it. 


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Posted 22 September 2021 - 07:50 AM

I am planning to risk and give it a try, I bought my color imx571 from one of those as cheapest as I can get and I am happy, so now I want to get the mono version which is only this one I found as cheapest ever, unless I can sell one camera I have then I can think about QHY not ZWO, ZWO is now crazy expensive pointless unnecessary

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Posted 22 September 2021 - 08:15 AM

I am planning to risk and give it a try, I bought my color imx571 from one of those as cheapest as I can get and I am happy, so now I want to get the mono version which is only this one I found as cheapest ever, unless I can sell one camera I have then I can think about QHY not ZWO, ZWO is now crazy expensive pointless unnecessary

Did you read this thread:   https://www.cloudyni...e-scam-warning 

There's no "risk" here.  You will lose your money.


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Posted 22 September 2021 - 08:24 AM

Did you read this thread:   https://www.cloudyni...e-scam-warning 

There's no "risk" here.  You will lose your money.

I will buy from Aliexpress same as I bought my three cameras from there including QHY and ZWO and this ToupTek copy, so why not add Astcam to that also, unless the seller is fake or not reliable at all, so what about Aliexpress site policy itself?!!!



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 08:27 AM

I will buy from Aliexpress same as I bought my three cameras from there including QHY and ZWO and this ToupTek copy, so why not add Astcam to that also, unless the seller is fake or not reliable at all, so what about Aliexpress site policy itself?!!!

Tareq, that's the point of this thread:  the seller is fake.  I don't know about Aliexpress' site policies -- Astcam is fake. There isn't actually an Astcam.  They don't have any cameras to sell. Please don't lose your money!



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Posted 22 September 2021 - 08:45 AM

Tareq, that's the point of this thread:  the seller is fake.  I don't know about Aliexpress' site policies -- Astcam is fake. There isn't actually an Astcam.  They don't have any cameras to sell. Please don't lose your money!

Ok, that is fair and clear enough, no need to lose money then, thank you very much


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