There were two videos suggest here. One is an interview with no video or data of an event, and the other is a video accompanied by audio in a cockpit.
Both were strongly recommended as compelling in this thread - and I definitely don't agree.
The first is an oral account with no data - and I can add it to a big pile of such things.
The second, also promoted as being convincing, is quickly dismissible. There is no description of the camera in use (it's just a guy in the cockpit with a camera poked out the window and not sophisticated air force technology), and no ruling out of obvious explanations such as autofocus and venus. The site that hosts this as compelling is immediately in question - and I am disappointed if others in CN who have experience with observing and video technology find it interesting. I'm also concerned about safety since it doesn't sound like anyone is actually flying the plane during this - and it is straight out of an episode "Air Crash Investigations" that doesn't end well.
So for me this is all at the level of flat earth society. But I'm still interested in any video or other observations captured that I might find worth my time.
The scientific interplay between observation and hypothesis is absent here.
Most science is based on repeated, reproducible observations which lead to testable hypotheses and deeper understanding.
Some science can come from deep understanding that can lead to testable hypotheses of previously unknown observations.
Here we have neither observations nor understanding.
Curious people have always looked to the sky because there is so much to observe and understand.
UFO chasers are, on the contrary, deeply incurious: so little to observe and understand. Out of everything possible to observe in the sky, nothing in space, nothing in the chemistry, physics, biology or meteorology of the atmosphere interests them.
Edited by Organic Astrochemist, 14 December 2021 - 03:06 PM.