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Success: PVS 7 converted to use PVS 14 (mx10160) tube

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#1 Solar storm

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Posted 28 December 2021 - 10:38 AM

Hi all!  I hope this write becomes something people can get excited about.  I have successfully converted a PVS 7 to accept my new monocular tube.  

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This works perfect and was surprisingly easy to do.  I want everyone to know that I am not a "handy" person.  I can barely screw in a light bulb, so anyone can do this.  We can now use the most advanced civilian tubes with 2 eyes.  The image is inverted so it is not good for terrestrial viewing, but for star gazing it does not matter.  

 

Things you need to accomplish this:

1.  A dremel kit or the like

2. access to a 3D printer and its software-  I have all the files on a free online site called Tinker Cad and should be easily shared.  I will make the files free access to anyone who wants them.  I have no interest in selling them.  They free.

3.  I purchased a 12mm wide C-Mount lens to lock ring/retaining ring part from Precise Parts

4.  Gorilla Glue or some kind of strong super glue

5.  Tape as long as its not duct tape

6.  Additional wires to make the PVS 7 wires longer if need be.  (I just twined them and superglued them together- super easy)

 

The dremel kit is to cut the screw on base of a traditional PVS nose cone 

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I then printed a tube sleeve for the 10160 style tube to fit in the PVS 7.  The Sleeve is printed to become almost flush with the collimator (about 8mm thick base)

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Then I made a nose cone that the Precise Parts C mount part can fit in that will then slide over the cut original PVS 7 nose cone.  This was then glued together with gorilla glue.

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Now for the part that scares people:  The wiring.  It ends up being very easy.  First thing you need to do is break the PVS 7 pins out of it. 

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The plastic holding the Green and White wire in is easy to snap off.  The (+) and (-) on the pic indicates the charges of the wires. 

 

You then can put those wires through the wholes and tape to the tube.

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IF you dont like working with the pins (I didnt),  I cut them off, stripped back some of the wire cover and twisted some other wire on and super glued.

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Then you just put it all together.  The tube sleeve slides in nicely.  The new nose cone (glued onto the original base) screws on.  The C mount glues in nicely to the new nose cone.  You can put whatever lens on you wish as long as it has a 12mm screw section.  My Envis lenses and the Nav 3 in the pick both have 12 mm long screw in sections.  

 

The PVS 7 powers on like normal and the image I got is perfect.  I honestly could not tell if the image was from a tube not originally made for it.  The clarity is awesome.  This was a real fun project and I will be happy to answer any questions.  I hope the images I took help if you want to do this yourself.  I will do my best to make the files easy to get.  

As far as 3D print materials.  I would say black Eco-ABS or Nylon would be the best choices.

 

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Posted 28 December 2021 - 03:44 PM

Fabulous work. I love my PVS7, but someday hope to upgrade to a better tube then the one I have, and this shows that is possible. The PVS7 is great, in part, because of the ability to insert the intensifier tube directly into a 2" focuser, requiring no in-focus.

 

This also demonstrates how astronomers don't need to be constrained by the MOD3, or any of the other (expensive) bodies. I could see savaging the innards of the PVS7 to create a simple 2" body with a Tmount on the front and a M48 on the rear for choice of occular (or digital camera).


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Posted 29 December 2021 - 01:46 AM

Is the new image upside down now?

I know the original PVS-7 MX10130 tube is non-inveritng while PVS-14 MX-10160 is inventing tube,

Thank you for sharing your work.



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Posted 29 December 2021 - 07:38 AM

Is the new image upside down now?

I know the original PVS-7 MX10130 tube is non-inveritng while PVS-14 MX-10160 is inventing tube,

Thank you for sharing your work.

Yup.  The image is inverted (upside down).  So not really useful for anything other than star gazing since inversion does not really matter.



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Posted 29 December 2021 - 08:48 PM

Tinker Cad search link for the files.  They are public so anyone can have access.

 

https://www.tinkerca.../search?q=PVS 7


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Posted 01 January 2022 - 08:39 PM

Yup.  The image is inverted (upside down).  So not really useful for anything other than star gazing since inversion does not really matter.

If you use it with a diagonal wouldn’t it be right side up again?



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Posted 01 January 2022 - 09:02 PM

If you use it with a diagonal wouldn’t it be right side up again?

I guess it would :).  I don’t have anything other than reflectors so I can’t try that out.  Might be a good excuse to get a big frac. 



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Posted 13 March 2022 - 02:22 AM

Bumping because someone had a question.



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Posted 13 March 2022 - 02:23 AM

Note:  In order for the search function to work, you need to have a Tinkercad account (it’s free).



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Posted 30 June 2022 - 11:41 AM

This is really good news! As the 10130 tube with latest technology seems really rare, and much more expensive than 10160 even when they are available.

 

I wonder if you have tried to convert a 11769 with that manual gain control pigtail? I'm not sure what is needed to make that manual gain control working (maybe just a potentiometer?) in the PVS7.



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Posted 03 September 2022 - 09:38 AM

Bumping because someone had a question.


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Posted 14 December 2022 - 07:55 AM

Bumping again because I got a few more questions messaged.



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Posted 05 June 2023 - 01:18 PM

Bumping because I received some more questions again. 



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Posted 04 September 2024 - 01:32 PM

Been over a year since bumped and I got another couple questions.  I have been using this conversion exclusively in my telescope and I could not be happier having the latest technology and being able to use both eyes. 


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