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#1 Tom62e

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:33 PM

Hi all,

Normally when I image M42 I do so from dark skies with a UV/IR cut filter using an OSC camer. However, what OSC filter would you all recommend for M42 when shooting during a full moon in Urban Bortle 8 skies?

Is it correct that M42 is both emission and reflection nebula? What is a city boy to do?

My available filters are . . .

- L-Extreme Dual Band
- IDAS D1
- Balder Moon and Skyglow
- optolong Uv/IR cut

Thanks.

Edit - oh, and I’ll be shooting with a asi2600mc - pro

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:37 PM

Hutech NBZ filter is the one that I would highly recommend.

 

10nm transmission bandpass for both  Ha & OIII


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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:39 PM

I shoot in Bortle 8/9 with an unmodded DSLR and don't use any filter for M42.



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:42 PM

I shoot in Bortle 8/9 with an unmodded DSLR and don't use any filter for M42.


I wonder if a filter might help you.
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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:44 PM

Hutech NBZ filter is the one that I would highly recommend.


Yeah, I was thinking either that or the Baader M&S. Both are relatively broadband. I guess it shouldn’t block out too much of the desirable photons.

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:44 PM

I wonder if a filter might help you.

It's the only object which is relatively easy for me even without a filter.



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:46 PM

Uv/IR cut



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 05:58 PM

Uv/IR cut


Yeah? Even in a Bortle 8 - almost 9-is - plus a full moon?

I fear it would be a washed out image.

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:00 PM

Yeah? Even in a Bortle 8 - almost 9-is - plus a full moon?

I fear it would be a washed out image.

Integrate a lot (A LOT!) and do background extraction in post processing. You can use Ha filter for the emission part to boost contrast.



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:13 PM

I use these two...

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 06:17 PM

I just tried the IDAS LPS-D3 for the first time last night. The Moon was not yet up when I was doing the EAA thing. I was pleased with how the filter performed. SQM-L was 18.07. This is about 12 minutes of 15 second subs.

 

M42 and Running Man, C11 with Hyperstar v3 and QHY183C

 

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EDITED to suggest you search up the Jim Thompson reports on filters. Lots of good test info is available. And to say that the above image is two panels that matched up nicely. In case someone was wondering about the FOV of a v3 Hyperstar with a 183 ;)


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Posted 24 January 2022 - 07:24 PM

I just tried the IDAS LPS-D3 for the first time last night. The Moon was not yet up when I was doing the EAA thing. I was pleased with how the filter performed. SQM-L was 18.07. This is about 12 minutes of 15 second subs.

 

M42 and Running Man, C11 with Hyperstar v3 and QHY183C

 

gallery_332504_18754_224668.jpg

 

EDITED to suggest you search up the Jim Thompson reports on filters. Lots of good test info is available. And to say that the above image is two panels that matched up nicely. In case someone was wondering about the FOV of a v3 Hyperstar with a 183 wink.gif

That's incredible for 12 minutes!



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 07:25 PM

Integrate a lot (A LOT!) and do background extraction in post processing. You can use Ha filter for the emission part to boost contrast.

I'm going to give it a shot with just the UV/IR cut filter.  Partially because my other filters need to be cleaned and I'm afraid to clean them until I watch a dozen YouTube videos - hahaha.




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