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#1 GeorgeLiv

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Posted 25 February 2022 - 04:57 PM

I think Light-Pollution (LP) maps are fun. With them we can see how bright cities, towns, villages and routes can be, especially relative to each other, but too many threads exist putting great emphasis on such maps and their number values. To aid you further, here are a few key points that you should be aware.
 
Any map (google, topographic, or even star-chart) is always an approximation representing facts gathered over some period and published in a given year. All you have to do is look at some 18th & 19th century maps to realize this.
 
LP maps attempt to plot the limiting magnitude (at zenith) seen at some time at night in ideal conditions. Atmospheric influences are not incorporated so they can't say much about transparency (or elevation for that matter). They also don't incorporate natural airglow which is always brightest in early evening. Sky brightness decreases through the night, naturally by the decay of airglow, and artificially from outdoor lighting, by up to 0.4 mags/arcsec2, sometimes more. Night skies everywhere are darkest minutes before the onset of astronomical twilight at dawn.
 
Most significant to me is that these maps are always spectrally blind. Just one example is the Washington D.C. and Baltimore area shot from the International Space Station (ISS), and in 2010 no less:
 
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The screenshot at bottom from lightpollutionmap.info has been distorted to match the ISS view, which is rotated and much brightened itself. I really like the colors as seen in 2010. True, I wouldn't want to be near that red arrowed town, (Westminster, Maryland with ~19,000 citizens), but you can drive to the mid-green and blue areas and you will get to see magnitude 6 stars. Aha, but driving on the coast (the red X) will afford you superb views of the southern and southeastern skies.
 
Look at the the color as well as brightness of the inner cities, the suburbs, and of the roads leading into the countryside. Nearly all whitish areas seen in that ISS view are lit with metal-halide lamps (not much LED yet in 2010). The brightest areas currently continue to be WHITE.
 
Here is a  more recent shot from about 30,000+ feet looking towards Colorado Springs, Colorado, in February of 2020. (Use google or Wikipedia to learn a few facts for the city, such as population, or how it is a "home rule municipality"). Shot in February which means that any existing canopies are likely evergreen conifers and pines. This time I compared the real jpg with a screenshot of the area as depicted on https://djlorenz.git...erlay/dark.html

 

 
Remember that the map is an approximation of limiting magnitude near zenith. Apparently the limiting magnitude increases (small red oval) towards the center of this city.
 
Here's the same city versus the 2020 Viirs data on lightpollutionmap.info, again skewed to match my high flying jet view.
 
 
The map is surprisingly accurate. However, all the lettered hot spots are ALL WHITE sources, either metal-halide or LED. The implications for local sky-glow -vs- rural sky-glow in terms of the resulting scattering from these cooler toned lights is significant: Light is reddened as it travels through the atmosphere.
 
Now you can draw any conclusion you wish, but I should point out that distant Pueblo is dimmed due to extinction and it's distance (extinction proportional to ~ 1/d2.5 in clean & dry air), while lights closer below appear brighter. Take care & don't over-argue your points.

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Posted 25 February 2022 - 08:44 PM

Many of those cautions are good. Good points.

 

But I hesitate to draw too heavily from the photos due to the limited dynamic range of film and sensors compared to the eye.

 

That would be consistent with the space photos not quite showing the lower LP colors accurately. Current photos would be horrifying with the switch to LED replacements, I'd expect.

 

I will say though, that the light pollution maps are a godsend in planning.

 

I located solid B2 sites just by map examination in combination with cross referencing google maps.

 

I don't often bother with my B9 + 100% LED usage in the area. I never thought I'd pray for good old sodium bulbs, the neodynium filters at least worked somewhat with them (really old sodium lights were almost completely blocked, but those were all but gone decades ago).

 

That saved multiple trips to sites that should have been okay but had unanticipated LP levels 

 

The only solid discrepancy I've noted is city light domes that don't show in mapping, like my B2 site that misses a small city/ large town light dome 10 or so miles away. 

 

But those usually take out a sector of sky and can be anticipated by looking at maps.



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Posted 28 February 2022 - 05:04 AM

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But I hesitate to draw too heavily from the photos due to the limited dynamic range of film and sensors compared to the eye.

 

That would be consistent with the space photos not quite showing the lower LP colors accurately. Current photos would be horrifying with the switch to LED replacements, I'd expect.

 

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You got this reversed. Our eyes are horrible in low light conditions compared to the response of digital sensors or certain films of the past, especially for red colors. In fact the eye can't discern any color for dim light or very distant sky-glow. But given long exposures, both film or (unfiltered*) digital sensors do a magnificent job showing vibrant colors.

 

Current space based photos are lacking. A search for "city lights from space" or similar, will cough up plenty of dated images. I can, however, point to a 2017 NYC image from the I.S.S.

 

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I also found a good 2013 image. That one was prior to any LED conversions. I tried to do a side by side comparison with the 2017 image by keeping Staten Island (lower left island) & Jersey city the same using photoshop. Not a good image for 2017 though. This is when only Brooklyn and Queens had converted to LED. Both parts have no tree foliage yet, well maybe just a bit for the March 23 2013 image. Some sections appear darker in the 2017 image which I found odd & interesting. Is it possible that spaced based imagery don't pick up blue colors well?
 

* Unfiltered - hot-mirror over the camera sensor removed or replaced.


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Posted 28 February 2022 - 08:40 AM

Having lived just outside the imaged area, 8-10 miles due east of JFK (easily spotted as the rectangular 'white' area on the east margin), I believe the 2013 to 2017 change in color of lighting is entirely accurate insofar as ground level conditions and perceptions.

 

As to 'darker areas' it might be color sensitivity, but I think the second photo is showing more of the illuminated ground itself. You could also look into high albedo snow coverage on the ground at the time of the photos, which varies radically in the New York City area. But, if that were the case, however, the park and cemetery areas in the middle of queens that look kind of like a lake, would probably show up brighter with uncleared snow coverage.

 

It is entirely possible that less direct sky illumination was present in the newer photo, but that's a partial guess. If entire fixtures were replaced there may have been less direct sky illumination in the second photo.

 

It is also interesting that some of the more orange area seem to be in the park, parkways and cemetery areas of Queens. Also, wild how unchanged Staten Island was in 2017.

 

I never recalled reading about the lighting changes in the broader area publications, but I read only 2 of the 4 big ones of the papers.

 

The Towns (3 large political subdivisions, as opposed to villages, in Nassau County, starting about at the right photo margin) in Nassau seem to have switched over in the same time period, but I was not personally aware of a total replacement effort and believe it was probably old bulb replacement and perhaps a slow swap out and relighting one of more of the handful of the main highways. The Nassau and Suffolk photos would interesting.

 

From the ground level it was somewhat difficult to notice the change from day to day, but over a two or three year period, not sure which years, light pollution became remarkably worse after being constant for at least a decade in my area just east of the airport in Western Nassau. My pollution and atmospherics were so awful in my area, combined with work schedules, I was only an occasional observer at night. Too frustrating.

 

From 2006 until I left NY in 2019 I was also frequently flying to Phoenix, landing at night much of the year, where I suddenly became conscious on one trip that nearly all lighting had become blue white over the east and southeast approach areas near the airport, much of which was rapid new construction.

 

 

I will have to politely disagree once again on the dynamic range issue on the photos.

 

While there's no question that sensors (and even properly prepared film, remember hypering?) can perceive the color range better and are more sensitive, we have to remember that that happens with long exposures, certainly not necessarily the case with snapshots taken from the moving ISS.

 

Film dynamic range was particularly bad. Back in my darkroom hobby days photos had to be extensively dodged and burned to restore a natural effect to what we recall having seen by eye.

 

Sensors are much better but simple minor changes in exposure can radically change the appearance of a photograph, so dynamic range remains an issue, but I'll limit that to short exposure photographs similar to snapshots.

 

Which are the kind of photos we normally compare to our memory of a scene by eye.

 

In these kinds of situations with light pollution, we are normally talking about dark adapted eyes anyway (well, as dark adapted as you can get under Bottle 9+ skies!).

 

I vaguely recall that the light pollution maps are generated from satellite data, but I still find they fairly accurately map the mid and low ranges of light pollution, and I think dynamic range of snapshot type photos are why the space short exposure 'snapshots' in those area with mid to low levels of light pollution.

 

If long exposure photographs were taken from space, I would expect the areas with low level light pollution areas to be more accurately displayed, but the high level areas to be massively overexposed, again due to dynamic range or a similar photographic effect.

 

But, without going to check, I believe the light pollution maps are actually generated from satellite data, at least that was my recollection as I started to write the next paragraph.

 

On a barely related note, there are light pollution sites that show different maps generated from different satellite data at different times. Unfortunately, I don't recall at the moment which site had selectable imaging and dating (or the satellite data references).

 

On those maps, one can track that there has been an acceleration of light pollution over the last 5 to 10 years.

 

On sites that I've regularly consulted over the last 5 years, particularly with reference to locating observation sites in Arizona within an hour of my upcoming home (my elderly parents house), there have been noticeable and significant changes over the last 5 years with a couple of perspective sites going from B2 to B3. Congress, northwest of Wickenberg was one rapidly changed area as I recall.

 

That was very unexpected over such a short time period. In an accidental interaction with someone living in Congress, 4 months ago, I was told that there had been a recent expansion of construction in that area.

 

All In all, I find the dark site maps to be reasonably accurate for the mid and low level light pollution zones, matching ground level impressions, with the exception of light dome glow areas.


Edited by markb, 28 February 2022 - 08:43 AM.


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Posted 01 March 2022 - 02:17 AM

Oh yes, if you're talking about the contrast range when talking about the dynamic range issue of imaging, our eyes do a great job at compressing the info. Film had good "latitude", but digital sensor's have poor (ergo the requirement of post prossesing). That's why the hot spots are just one shade on these satellite views.

 

As for snow on the ground, as a meteorologist myself, I think I may have archived "snow on the ground" maps from those years. But I don't imagine these ISS shots caught snow-cover. I'll try to dig them out, just out of curiosity.

 

I'm not sure but the Viirs contours shown on lightpollutionmap.info for the different years may be recalculated data from 2015, so it may not be showing actual changes. Having said this...there are sites on the net showing changes as seen by satellite images.

 

nature.com/articles/srep03789 (click on the figures)

 

googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2019/03/mapping-changes-in-global-light.html - which links this interactive map...

digital-geography.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/index2.html#8/34.985/36.977

 

Unfortunately this doesn't work with my dated browser (or system).frown.gif


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Posted 01 March 2022 - 11:06 AM

Thanks, I think https://www.lightpollutionmap.info/ is the site I had used in the past, but had misplaced the url. I use darksitefinder most of the time.

 

Note the link correction for other readers.

 

The other link looks extremely interesting and is new to me.

 

I have not checked NOAA historical data, but I think the dark 'park and cemetery corridor' is a safe indication of little or no snow cover in either photo.

 

Dynamic range/latitude/contrast range, whichever is correct. My film days and most photo article reading are decades old. Except for accutance and some MFT charting.

 

Interesting thought, perhaps you can 'post process' the ISS photos to see if the subtle mid and low LP can be brought out of the images. My AP experience is a sliver above none.

 

Any reason you cannot go to a newer browser? Brave, for example,is a strippef, faster, trash blocking chrome offshoot, and works on w7 and above, and there are lists for xp compatible ones. Brave seems nearly an order of magnitude faster than Chrome because of the trash it removes (hidden eBay and Amazon seller code were particularly nasty cpu drains).


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Posted 02 March 2022 - 12:20 PM

Great thread!  Thank you.


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Posted 08 March 2022 - 12:09 PM

An excellent read: The growing threat of light pollution to ground-based observatories (and amateurs...)



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Posted 08 March 2022 - 04:25 PM

Now that's something I can really sink my teeth into. It even attempts to compare artificial light of "three monochromatic sources of indicated wavelengths" versus their distance. Gotta read all of this pdf very carefully. Thanks for this!

 

Direct link to the pdf: https://link.springe...021-00138-3.pdf
 


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Posted 13 March 2022 - 01:53 AM

A high resolution of the right side ISS image of Jan 10, 2017, showing virtually all of Long Island down to Philadelphia, PA, can be downloaded from here:

 

https://eol.jsc.nasa...l=E&frame=29655

 

thumb...

[attachment=2006459:ISS050-E-29655_thumb.jpg]

 

It says "Time taken 07:31:43 GMT" which translates to 2:32 am E.S.T.

 

Further expounded here:

https://eol.jsc.nasa...=ISS050-E-29655

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https://eol.jsc.nasa...=ISS050-E-29655




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