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[Starlancer]

Yes I find that slewing behavior wired too.  I mean it works but odd, I think it might be an attempt to stop cord wrap and tripod collisions 

Here's some logs from this weekend. 

Bortle 5 ish. 

 

Saturday night was quite windy (21st), sunday night a bit better. 

 

Ive also found that when doing the meridian flip, goes to home position, then back to previous position, then flip... it is a bit weird that does 3 slews for a single flip..

 

for me at least, after the flip, guiding went worse. And even it was generally under  RMS1", in some cases got oval shaped stars (working at 2.67"/pix resolution,  with my older mount even RMS 1.89" was OK. ) although perhaps was breeze. 

 

Also a bit weird, after the flip, the reading of the electronic level changed the "roll"  from the initial 0.7º to around 1.9º. the lever is in the main body of the mount, and that doesn't move, so no idea.  Also the bubble level on the body itself didn't change at all. 

 

Anyway, here are the 3 logs for anyone interested. 

 

https://mega.nz/file...qXmpJszuGum3hBA

[Wickyup]

Skysafari works for me. What problem do you have with it ? Can't you not connect to Nyx hotspot ?

Are you using Android or Apple ISO? According to the Manual, First you need to push Coordinates/time /date and turn on tracking into the mount with Unity App. before connecting your iPad to SkySafri. Apple hasn’t Approved the Unity app. So I can’t do that

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Edited by Wickyup, 24 January 2023 - 11:32 AM.

[Obs30]

[…] like it does using my CGEMll mount […]

 

OK … a bit off topic … I own different mounts including an original CGEM, bought from the very first manufacturing batch. Still the original hand controller with all the “latest” updates. Celestron did a great job with that controller. Still works great with its 2-star alignment, plus the multiple calibration stars. Then the all-star polar alignment, backlash control, PEC recordings, customized user objects, hibernate (=parking), you name it… I just love this feature rich controller. Also works great with the ASIAIR or SkyFi.

 

I have a new mount now, which can only be controlled via the computer or a smart device… also looking at this thread because I am interested in the NYX-101 … and see that a lot of these 20-year old CGEM-microcontroller-based features have been totally forgotten or were replaced by external software with less features.

[ETtheExtraterrestrial]

Okay I need some of the great expert advice available here. I posted on the FB page for NYX and got some great feedback (awesome page) but posting here as the audience is larger. I have my NYX arriving tomorrow. I currently have an Ioptron Tripier. I purchased the ioptron EQ6 R Pro adapter and the two Pegasus adapters and 6 stand offs. The problem is only the center hole on the Pegasus plate aligns with the center hole on the Ioptron EQ6 adapter plate.

Do you think this will be stable? Risk of cracking at higher payload? etc...

From what I understand the NYX will only attach through the center hole as well on this configuration.

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Edited by ETtheExtraterrestrial, 24 January 2023 - 04:26 PM.

[astronewbster]

Sctom,

 

Sorry for the late reply.  But as another poster pointed out that yes you have to reset the mount back to its shipped position.  The foam doesn't allow for any movement.

[astronewbster]

I can confirm that Safari works as well.  One thing to Note is my tablet/phone has cellular ability.

 

1.  Open Pegasus Astro Unity program on a pc and connect to the mount and unpark the mount so it will be able to track.  (important step!!!). This should push all the information to the mount.

2.  Open your tablet/phone and connect the the Nyx101 wifi

3.  Open SkySafari and go to the settings.  Then Setup.   Set the mount type to Meade LX850.

4.  In the IP Address use the fixed IP that Pegasus Astro uses.  192.168.137.1

5.  The port number to use is 9999

6.  Now connect to the mount and choose a DSO and slew to that.  

7.  Next you can do align if you wish.

 

I was able to slew from DSO to DSO as long as I had UNPARKED the mount first in the Unity program.  If this is not done then the mount just sets there.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Clear skies!  (wishful thinking we are in for snow tonight. T_T)

Edited by astronewbster, 24 January 2023 - 05:02 PM.

[Starlancer]

I was getting my ASIAir to work this way but after a few minutes it seems connection was lost, I don't know if that's due to software bugs or ZWO's lock out of the mount.  I assumes the lockout of the mount was serial based only.

 

I can confirm that Safari works as well.  One thing to Note is my tablet/phone has cellular ability.

 

1.  Open Pegasus Astro Unity program on a pc and connect to the mount and unpark the mount so it will be able to track.  (important step!!!). This should push all the information to the mount.

2.  Open your tablet/phone and connect the the Nyx101 wifi

3.  Open SkySafari and go to the settings.  Then Setup.   Set the mount type to Meade LX850.

4.  In the IP Address use the fixed IP that Pegasus Astro uses.  192.168.137.1

5.  The port number to use is 9999

6.  Now connect to the mount and choose a DSO and slew to that.  

7.  Next you can do align if you wish.

 

I was able to slew from DSO to DSO as long as I had UNPARKED the mount first in the Unity program.  If this is not done then the mount just sets there.

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Clear skies!  (wishful thinking we are in for snow tonight. T_T)

[astronewbster]

I was able to use SkySafari for about an hour on my iPad yesterday.   Strange.  I did update my mount to version 1.17.  Maybe there was a fix for that in that update.

[Wow!]

Okay I need some of the great expert advice available here. I posted on the FB page for NYX and got some great feedback (awesome page) but posting here as the audience is larger. I have my NYX arriving tomorrow. I currently have an Ioptron Tripier. I purchased the ioptron EQ6 R Pro adapter and the two Pegasus adapters and 6 stand offs. The problem is only the center hole on the Pegasus plate aligns with the center hole on the Ioptron EQ6 adapter plate.

Do you think this will be stable? Risk of cracking at higher payload? etc...

From what I understand the NYX will only attach through the center hole as well on this configuration.

what thickness is the central bolt?

I would think you should be okay but I'd be more concerned about rotation than anything. A single point isn't ideal IMO, but depending on the load (and it's really load and balance dependent) you should be okay.

[evansg]

SkySafari 7 Plus and Pro now support natively the NYX-101. The brake is automatically disengaged with you connect to the mount with this driver

It is available on IOS now. I didn't test with Android but it is in a rollout process so it wil be available to both platforms.

 

Edited by evansg, 25 January 2023 - 07:50 AM.

[Wickyup]

SkySafari 7 Plus and Pro now support natively the NYX-101. The brake is automatically disengaged with you connect to the mount with this driver

It is available on IOS now. I didn't test with Android but it is in a rollout process so it wil be available to both platforms.

 

 

For IOS users, Will you still need to first connect the mount with the Unity Mobile App. from Apple to push coordinates, date and time?  My NYX mount will connect using my iPad, but the "Connect and Align" option on SkySafari for the 4-star alignment isn't available to choose like it does when using my CGEMII mount.

Edited by Wickyup, 25 January 2023 - 06:49 PM.

[fheeckman]

Got the mount and the tripod after a VERY LONG wait, but no iOS app? What is the problem here?

[astronewbster]

evansg,

 

I got the SkySafari 7 Plus and can connect to the mount using the native driver you mentioned but the RA brake does not automatically unlock as described.   I still have to use the Unity app to unlock the brake and turn on tracking.  So I am not sure if I am doing something wrong.

 

Any ideas on the cause of the issue?

 

IP address being used is 192.168.137.1 port 9999.   

 

I know this is the hotspot assignment.   Maybe this is only working if it can be connected to the wifi client side?

 

 

Clear skies!

Edited by astronewbster, 25 January 2023 - 08:11 PM.

[ETtheExtraterrestrial]

Received my mount today!
Unboxed
Powered up
Connected to mini PC
Connected to Astro Photography Tool
Connected to Cartes du Ciel
Slews perfectly
Build seems fantastic overall
Very quiet and anything but supersonic slewing speeds

Surprises- I didn’t realize it doesn’t come with a power supply plug for the US? Odd but glad I had an adapter

love the Unity platform. Obviously just playing around in my office but overall was very impressed.

Hopefully I will get to start testing tomorrow night but we’ll see if the weather holds up.

Edited by ETtheExtraterrestrial, 26 January 2023 - 06:09 AM.

[Wickyup]

I decided not to wait for Apple to Approve the Unity App. So I went and bought an older used laptop from a friend, downloaded Unity, hooked up the mount to the PC.
That Unity Platform is nicely set up, easy to navigate and use … (good job on that PegasusAstro) Do your star alignment within Unity, then push site info to the mount, open up SkySafari on your iPad,enter the necessary NYX101 setups, Hit “connect”, tap on the last star you aligned to in Unity, hit “align” and you’re good to go with SkySafari and iPad 

Edited by Wickyup, 26 January 2023 - 11:24 AM.

[Starlancer]

Has anyone tried AltAz mode? I didn't have luck with it, seemed everything was off 180 degrees in altitude. Followed instructions which are kind of vague and check Lat/Long also.

[acshaw80]

I will likely get one of these once the ZWO/ Pegasus issues have been worked out and the two devices start playing nicely together.  The lack of information on working with the AA is why I waited.  

 

With this in mind, I am looking at putting roughly 17kg on the Nyx paired with a William Optics 1000mm mortar tri-pier.  The tri-pier is in the mail and I'll be using it with my AM5 in the meantime.

 

Does anyone know if the WO tri-pier and Nyx-101 will work together?  Would the pegasus adapter work perhaps? 

 

EDIT: I have the WO 1000mm tri-pier with the 3/8" thread adapter

Edited by acshaw80, 26 January 2023 - 02:50 PM.

[Rasfahan]

I will likely get one of these once the ZWO/ Pegasus issues have been worked out and the two devices start playing nicely together.  The lack of information on working with the AA is why I waited.  

 

With this in mind, I am looking at putting roughly 17kg on the Nyx paired with a William Optics 1000mm mortar tri-pier.  The tri-pier is in the mail and I'll be using it with my AM5 in the meantime.

 

Does anyone know if the WO tri-pier and Nyx-101 will work together?  Would the pegasus adapter work perhaps? 

 

EDIT: I have the WO 1000mm tri-pier with the 3/8" thread adapter

I contacted Pegasus the other day because my piers/tripods are also all 3/8“. There‘s no adaptation currently available nor is one planned. They only have the EQ-6R-type adapter and are planning for iOptron. That‘s currently a show-stopper for me because I‘ld need still another tripod just for the Nyx or refit my Berlebach for EQ-6R (which none of my other mounts work with). When they put out an iOptron adapter, I could refit my tripods to that standard.

[evansg]

Hi,

A couple of notes:

 

* The IOS application is now available in App Store. Search for "PegasusAstro Unity"

* The SkySafari NYX-101 driver unlocks the mount brake,. Make sure you ticked "Set Telescope Time and Location".

[Starlancer]

Hi,

A couple of notes:

 

* The IOS application is now available in App Store. Search for "PegasusAstro Unity"

* The SkySafari NYX-101 driver unlocks the mount brake,. Make sure you ticked "Set Telescope Time and Location".

The app works but can it be possible to connect via Wi-Fi through my home Wi-Fi.  On the pc unity I can connect as long as the mount is connected to my home Wi-Fi, but with the app I have to connect to the mount Wi-Fi this happens in both iOS and android versions 

[astronewbster]

Hi,

A couple of notes:

 

* The IOS application is now available in App Store. Search for "PegasusAstro Unity"

* The SkySafari NYX-101 driver unlocks the mount brake,. Make sure you ticked "Set Telescope Time and Location".

I have been playing with the IOS app and SkySafari 7 Plus this morning with the mount.  I love the IOS Unity app!!!!

 

Thanks to the PegasusAstro team for have the star catalog and alignment star number settings in this app!

 

I did some further testing and found I misspoke earlier the SkySafari does unlock the brake as mentioned by EvansG.   What it doesn't do is unpark the mount.  However, this is not an issue for me. As my workflow goes, I have to use the Unity app to push the data to the mount and do the star alignment process which will require the mount to be unparked.  After that I use Safari to align to the last star from the alignment process and am good to go.

 

One thing I did noticed that was missing from the mobile Unity app is the electronic assistance for the mount.  This would be really helpful to use setting the pitch and roll with a tablet or phone.  (maybe it will be added in a future update??)

 

So my workflow is now.

 

  1.   set up tripod mount and level

  2.   Open your tablet/phone and connect the the Nyx101 wifi hotspot.

          a.  Make sure the In the IP Address use the fixed IP that Pegasus Astro uses.  192.168.137.1. 
          b.  The port number to use is 9999.

  3.   Open Pegasus Astro Unity program on a pc and connect to the mount.

  4.   Use the electronic assistance to set the pitch (latitude)

  5.   Do a polar alignment

  6.   Open the Mobile Unity app

  7.   Connect to the mount hotspot (the hotspot name starts with Nyx...)

  8.   Unpark the mount

  9.   Make sure track I set to sidereal.

10.  Run a star alignment process in the Unity app

11.  Open SkySafari on the mobile device. 

12.  This part will only need to be done once

          a.  go to Settings.  

          b.  Select Presets.

          c.  add preset

          d.  Set the mount type to Equatorial Goto (German)

          e.  Set the scope type to Pegasus NYX-101.

          f.   Select Next for the ip settings

          g.  Make sure the In the IP Address use the fixed IP that Pegasus Astro uses.  192.168.137.1. 

          h.  The port number to use is 9999.

           i.  Select Next for next screen.

           j.  Make sure the Set Telescope Time & Location is turned on.  (slide button to turn on)

           k. Save Preset

           l.  Your saved preset should be selected

         m.  Now close settings

13.  Now connect to the mount.  The DSO should match from the last star from the star alignment process.

 

Hope everyone is enjoying learning this mount.  I really like the mount.

 

If there are any mistakes in this post let me know and I will correct.

 

Clear skies!!

Edited by astronewbster, 27 January 2023 - 06:08 PM.

[Wickyup]

 

13.  Now connect to the mount and choose a DSO and slew to that. 
14.  Next align (I use the last star from the star alignment process).

I think you can leave out "and choose a DSO and slew to that "   line 13.

because you're already aligned to the last star in Unity and your mount is set to that location, so all you need to do is sync to same star in Safari by tapping on that star then tap "align"

If you slew to a DSO before that, your mount will no longer be on that last star's true location that you already align to in Unity. It'll be on DSO location that you chose.

Otherwise, everything else seems fine to me.

Edited by Wickyup, 27 January 2023 - 02:12 PM.

[astronewbster]

Wickyup,

 

That’s true.  I’ll make the correction.  It was early when I typed that. Lol

[wacpet]

Hey everybody!

I just gave the new iOS app a try and something/ several things went wrong.

1. I couldn’t really sleep the mount with direction buttons. It would only slew at tracking speed although slewing speed was set to 16x or even faster. 
2. when choosing an object from the catalog to slew to, the mount went way off. Although the direction was correct, it looked like there was a difference in time. Like the mount was two hours ahead of my local time. I didn’t do an alignment but it shouldn’t be of by so much, even without an alignment. 
3. when I tried to slew to mercury which should be above the horizon, the mount slewed way beyond the horizon - likely because of the time difference already mentioned above. Gladly I didn’t have a OAT mounted because it would have crashed into the mount like this. So please add a „object not reachable“ marker to the catalogue. 
4. After a few slews I wanted to send it back to home position but it went completely off and stopped in a completely weird position. So it lost its home position. How could that happen? I think I read somewhere the mount has an integrated homeposition marker? And I am not talking about the marks on the mounts casing (which are not alinging on my mount anyway). 

Edited by wacpet, 29 January 2023 - 08:28 AM.

[RugbyRene]

Has anyone managed to use the mount with KStars/EKOS?