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#926 Obs30

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Posted 03 March 2023 - 04:30 PM

Excellent. Thank you! This is good news.

 

I have an ASI120MM on an Askar OAG. It is not related to the camera drivers. The ASIAIR cannot access the native INDI driver of the StarGO2 for the guide commands/pulses. It uses the SkySafari driver, which is very very very basic and only provides slew commands.

 

I think both companies are working on a better compatibility with the ASIAIR app.



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Posted 04 March 2023 - 12:45 AM

My NYX-101 connected to Stellarmate (Raspberry Pi 4B). I use "OnStep LX200" Indi driver, instead of native LX200 driver. It is fruitfull function than native one. It can park (lock) and unpark (unlock) the mount. I think it can apply to ASIAIR.


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Posted 04 March 2023 - 01:10 AM

My NYX-101 connected to Stellarmate (Raspberry Pi 4B). I use "OnStep LX200" Indi driver, instead of native LX200 driver. It is fruitfull function than native one. It can park (lock) and unpark (unlock) the mount. I think it can apply to ASIAIR.

Thanks VR2VDT, i selected the "OnStep Electronics" mount in ASIAIR and you are correct i can start and stop tracking and it releases the brake, this is good news :)

will try this next clear night to see that i works correct i real life.

 

thanks for your suggestion.


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Posted 04 March 2023 - 02:47 PM

Can anyone with a Nyx comment on the Altitude adjustment knob smoothness? I have mine and it is very rough in the altitude range that I live (34-40). It is buttery smooth around 70-90, and varying roughness in other ranges. 

 

Given all the rain in California, I haven't had a chance to see how this impacts polar alignment, but it's a real concern for me given that good polar alignment is critical on a mobile mount. 

 

I did contact Pegasus and they said that I can play around with the four screws around the adjustment knob to move to worm gear and see if it makes it better, but honestly even after trying it doesn't feel as good as I would hope. Also, it seems that if I start to move the knob to bring altitude down, it can actually "slip" down a bit even when the two securing knobs are in place. I don't recall that being possible before, so maybe I need to work on that worm alignment some more as I may have introduced some slippage somehow. 

 

The altitude adjustment is also very rough on mine when OTA is installed.
I tested on several nights with my NYX-101, it is very difficult to obtain an accurate polar align.
As soon as you tighten the two pitch tensioners, this changes the polar align, same issue when I tight the M6 altitude locking screw... 

No problem with azimut adjustment.

 

I also find the alt knob to be rough, and have been having trouble getting accurate polar alignment - though the latter may be me as much as the mount.



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Posted 06 March 2023 - 01:18 PM

I also find the alt knob to be rough, and have been having trouble getting accurate polar alignment - though the latter may be me as much as the mount.

 It might be an issue with the alt adjustment being offset to one side, instead being located in the center of the mount.  You would think it would have a tighter tolerance and fit to compensate for the offset weight distribution on Alt mechanism, allowing for a smooth adjustment, but apparently that's not the case.


Edited by Wickyup, 06 March 2023 - 05:27 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2023 - 07:20 AM

Just curious.  There have been numerous posts on the NYX-101 FB page of both OTA's crashing into the mount and worse, numerous NYX motherboards that are frying.  I would have expected to see discourse on those issues here but their absence makes me think that most, if not all, of these issues are not real and just your typical FB Troll.   Any truth to this?



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Posted 07 March 2023 - 07:24 AM

No problems with my Nyx 101.

Very sweet rig.



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Posted 07 March 2023 - 06:39 PM

Just curious.  There have been numerous posts on the NYX-101 FB page of both OTA's crashing into the mount and worse, numerous NYX motherboards that are frying.  I would have expected to see discourse on those issues here but their absence makes me think that most, if not all, of these issues are not real and just your typical FB Troll.   Any truth to this?

It's real, I had to replace my motherboard and I did have an incident while testing and getting familiar with the mount without any OTA where the mount took off in RA and flip 180 degrees within a few seconds. I'm not going to get into the details other than that Pegasus support has been really helpful


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Posted 07 March 2023 - 09:37 PM

Just curious.  There have been numerous posts on the NYX-101 FB page of both OTA's crashing into the mount and worse, numerous NYX motherboards that are frying.  I would have expected to see discourse on those issues here but their absence makes me think that most, if not all, of these issues are not real and just your typical FB Troll.   Any truth to this?

I don't doubt that those folks have had real problems.  There seems to be two different ones.  There have been electronic failures that are being blamed on poor/counterfeit chips and there is what I would call a runaway slew problem that may be due to low voltage/high torque loading issues or perhaps an unknown/undisclosed problem with the mount.  I recently bought a NYX-101 mount and have been delighted with its performance.  At this point we can't know what percentage of the mounts that are out in use have had a problem.  With social media we certainly hear about the problems but typically we don't hear much about the successes.  Being a new design and manufacture, I'm not surprised that there might be issues to be solved.  I waited until I saw reports of good performance so I took a chance and purchased one and don't regret it.  At this point it looks like Pegasus has been responsive in dealing with the problems and I feel they will continue to fine tune the mount.


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Posted 08 March 2023 - 07:08 AM

I don't doubt that those folks have had real problems.  There seems to be two different ones.  There have been electronic failures that are being blamed on poor/counterfeit chips and there is what I would call a runaway slew problem that may be due to low voltage/high torque loading issues or perhaps an unknown/undisclosed problem with the mount.  I recently bought a NYX-101 mount and have been delighted with its performance.  At this point we can't know what percentage of the mounts that are out in use have had a problem.  With social media we certainly hear about the problems but typically we don't hear much about the successes.  Being a new design and manufacture, I'm not surprised that there might be issues to be solved.  I waited until I saw reports of good performance so I took a chance and purchased one and don't regret it.  At this point it looks like Pegasus has been responsive in dealing with the problems and I feel they will continue to fine tune the mount.

Good to know.  Thanks to those that responded.  I still have my eye on a NYX-101 for a nice portable visual setup with probably something like a Celestron 9.5" OTA.  My bones are too old for a C11 but a 9.5 is a good tradeoff between weight and portability and the NYX would work well.  I'll keep checking this thread to see how current users are liking it.  I've liked everything that Pegasus makes and no doubt they will work out the kinks.  I was an early adopter on the AM5 and I'm loving that mount.  These strain wave mounts have a lot of pluses to them for sure.


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Posted 08 March 2023 - 08:00 AM

Good to know.  Thanks to those that responded.  I still have my eye on a NYX-101 for a nice portable visual setup with probably something like a Celestron 9.5" OTA.  My bones are too old for a C11 but a 9.5 is a good tradeoff between weight and portability and the NYX would work well.  I'll keep checking this thread to see how current users are liking it.  I've liked everything that Pegasus makes and no doubt they will work out the kinks.  I was an early adopter on the AM5 and I'm loving that mount.  These strain wave mounts have a lot of pluses to them for sure.

Your AM5 is not strong enough for a Celestron 9.5" in visual mode ?


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Posted 08 March 2023 - 08:58 AM

Your AM5 is not strong enough for a Celestron 9.5" in visual mode ?

Not so much that but at the moment the AM5, from what I've seen, is not great in visual mode.  I got it strictly for astrophotography.  By the time I can get around to making a portable visual setup that may change but the AM5 in Alt/Az mode is not great so we will see.  The NYX is a possible alternative.  I have to go back and look at the numbers but I believe with the difference in load capacities between the AM5 and NYX the last time I looked the NYX was better simply because I don't want to have to shlep around counterweights.  It's not an immediate issue, probably something I will look at with real interest in 1 to 2 years so I'll see what the mount world looks like then when I'm serious about really doing something.  Plate is pretty full at the moment with what I currently have.


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Posted 08 March 2023 - 03:25 PM

I have tried the "OnStep Electronics" Mount in ASIAIR for 2 nights and it seems to be working. you have to start tracking in the app before you polar align or the mount wont move.

and when i select goto home position sometimes the mount wont move but it says that its completed. when you do it a second time it works correct and the tracking turns off.

it seems to work correct with autoguiding when you slew to new target. but i haven't been able to tryout a meridian flip.

 

is there someone else that have tried it out?


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Posted 09 March 2023 - 08:25 AM

There have been electronic failures that are being blamed on poor/counterfeit chips

Is this due to rip-off mounts, trying to look as if they're original NYX-101s, or due to Pegasus' use of problematic chips?



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Posted 09 March 2023 - 09:03 AM

Is this due to rip-off mounts, trying to look as if they're original NYX-101s, or due to Pegasus' use of problematic chips?

Pegasus bought chips that turned out to be counterfeit or re-used chips. It has happened to many manufacturers when supplies get tight.



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Posted 09 March 2023 - 05:25 PM

New Unity Platform includes a 3d view, automatic meridian flip of the telescope along with multiple ASCOM fixes. New ASCOM supports satellite tracking, variable rates.

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Posted 10 March 2023 - 07:17 AM

Hi, the 3d view of new Unity Platform can't show correct position of the mount with Alt-Az mode. 



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Posted 12 March 2023 - 01:05 AM

 I want to use my polemaster between two mounts, so I'm looking for an adapter base to stay with the NYX mount. I haven't found anything specifically for the NYX yet, has anyone come up with an appropriate adapter base yet?

 

Thanks,

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Posted 12 March 2023 - 02:48 AM

The Polemaster adapter is built into the NYX-101.  Check P.36 of the manual for the mount.

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Posted 12 March 2023 - 08:39 AM

Thanks, I saw that. But, I wasn’t clear. Or maybe I’m missing how it works… I don’t want to screw the polemaster “permanently” onto the Nyx-101, I’d like to have a quick release base to stay with the mount, so I can easily remove the polemaster to share with another mount. Hopefully, that makes a little more sense?

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Posted 12 March 2023 - 10:03 AM

I use a dovetail adapter for the polemaster, attaches easily on top or bottom of the OTA. This ADM one looks very solid:

https://www.admacces...aster-mounting/
I‘m using this one from Geoptik because ADM accessories are too expensive here:

https://www.teleskop...-dovetails.html
 

In the beginning I used this magnetic base for the polemaster (it comes with a sticker you can put on aluminum mounts), but you need to take good care that there is no pull on the cable because it can turn:

https://www.astrosho...wE&utm_content=


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Posted 20 March 2023 - 02:26 PM

On my side I went with a custom adapter ring, it requieres a bit of work (print or tour an aluminium piece + threading the side hole for the locking screw) but it works like a charm:

https://www.cloudyni...2#entry12438893


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Posted 20 March 2023 - 04:41 PM

I tested the ASIAIR beta software 2.1 (13) 10.68 and now i can connect to the Mount. and control it, i have cloudy nights so cant test it outdoors. when i gets clear i will test.

Good news, thanks for this!


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Posted 21 March 2023 - 09:46 PM

Anyone have a 10" newt hanging off this thing who can share their experience?

 

I've got a GSO 10" f/5 with a upgraded carbon tube that weighs in around 38 lbs with my imaging train... I'm flinging it around with an EQ6R-pro right now, and it... works... but I'm looking for a little more stability, when well balanced (and calm winds) I can get 0.3-0.6" rms. Torn between NYX-101 or saving a little more and getting the CQ350 or G11T... but both of those are about as heavy as my EQ6 or heavier. I live in Bortle 8-9 and I'm about 20 mins from bottle 7 and 60-90 mins from bottle 4-5 so I'm also tempted by the portability of the NYX-101. I set up and tear down every night and I'm nervous that the G111T will break my back (although I suppose I can split it in two) and apparently the CQ350 is a few pounds lighter than the EQ6. Currently I have a canvas belt looped through the EQ6 handle and I squat, loop the belt over my shoulder, stand, and shuffle the mount (counterweights and all) out onto my back patio from the living room. 

 

I suppose I could step up to the NYX-101 now and have the G11T be further-down-the-road mount...

Sell me on it.



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Posted 30 March 2023 - 09:39 AM

An interesting bit of information about the Nyx-101.  The reason why it works well with the onstep driver is because it is using onstep to run the mount.  You can open up a serial terminal on a computer and send onstep serial commands to it and it will respond and react perfectly.  

 

This is interesting because maybe you could DIY a handcontroler or hack your own control system.

 

Baud rate is 115200 and serial data is transferred both ways.  

 

Kind of put two and two together when I saw it was using a ESP32 for the microcontroller and the onstep driver works so well.  I wouldn't be surprised if focuser used it as well as there are commands for that too in onstep.


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