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#51 RichA

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 01:47 AM

Monolux (HOC?) - 4380 (60/910) - $300 (too much) in Baltimore, MD

https://baltimore.cr...7516669524.html

 

Brandon Vernonscope 80 - $275 in Hereford, AZ

https://tucson.craig...7516637663.html

 

Bushnell Sky Chief Jr mount - $40 in Santa Cruz, CA

https://www.facebook...886260118112823

Brandon's fake apo.  Truly a fascinating scope.  It was a screwed-up apo with skewed achromatic colour correction, instead of red/blue edge, you got pink and cyan!!  Interestingly, the one I got had a kind of a "fixer" lens in the front  of the 1-1/4 inch diagonal which sort-of cleaned up some of the colour error.  The 2 inch model didn't have that.


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 02:11 AM

ok, good points.  i am still bidding but maybe it is an syw ae-106 although the cell should be labelled.?

 

http://www.amateuras...81600/index.htm

 

agreed that there is a third mount screwhole hole/tab perpendicular to the finder bracket on a 20te.  this one is lacking that tab.  it is, however, a large ladder bracket, whereas the not small 40mm bracket on my r73 is a solid post.

 

ae106 has a ladder bracket but no tab.

 

agreed that the cell body is different.  the outer flange is deeper on the astromart 20te.  same for an ae-106 which uses phillips head screws.  here is a 20te

 

 

 

and there is a rounded lip or bulge on the 20te focuser right where it joins the ota which is not present on this scope.  the focuser looks more like an ae-106.

 

 

i can see rao using a different finder bracket over time, but the changes to focuser and objective are less likely.  the phillips screws for collimation could be replacements or indicative of a later build.

 

looking closely i can see the screw holes for a smaller finder where it would be on an r102, and you can also see white paint under the blue.  the guidescope remains a very close match down to the focus wheels.  the objective dust cap is a dead ringer for my rao dust caps.

 

so if not an r102 we are back to a 4" f15 longfellow residing in japan with drawtube style, overall design and proportions very close to an r102 and an unmarked cell just like an r102.   the d=108mm also fits nicely with the 1670mm length, which would make a 102mm or 100mm an f16.  so an ae-106 sounds attractive.

It's a SYW and has to be one of the following: AE-101, AE-106, or AE-108

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This is the 108

 

Here's a AE-101

https://www.cloudyni...1600/?p=6448690

 

and a AE-106

https://www.cloudyni...1600/?p=7208423

go down to post #78 for a good look at the focuser

 

And here's the shorter AE-105

https://www.cloudyni...1228-refractor/


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#53 CHASLX200

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:10 AM

The lens is trash.  Unless you can get a lens for it, for under say $700 (unlikely) it makes no sense to get it.

Nice scope for in house display or paper weight.



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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:56 AM

Lots of interesting discussions thus far but let's concentrate on the ads.Some of these discussions merit their own,separate threads.Good reading for sure,but much better as stand alones and not the ebay thread.


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#55 RichA

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 09:57 AM

It's a SYW and has to be one of the following: AE-101, AE-106, or AE-108

attachicon.gifAE-108.jpg

This is the 108

 

Here's a AE-101

https://www.cloudyni...1600/?p=6448690

 

and a AE-106

https://www.cloudyni...1600/?p=7208423

go down to post #78 for a good look at the focuser

 

And here's the shorter AE-105

https://www.cloudyni...1228-refractor/

Looks like it's got table legs for tripod legs.



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Posted 03 August 2022 - 10:29 AM

Monolux (HOC?) - 4380 (60/910) - $300 (too much) in Baltimore, MD

https://baltimore.cr...7516669524.html

The 4380 could be one of the rarer Horiguchi versions from c. 1970 -- the Hino's usually have the maker's mark on the label; the Hiyoshi's on the lens cell.


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 11:02 AM

The 4380 could be one of the rarer Horiguchi versions from c. 1970 -- the Hino's usually have the maker's mark on the label; the Hiyoshi's on the lens cell.

I'd like to check out the pinion block and focus knob for maker's mark.



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Posted 03 August 2022 - 11:37 AM

Anyone and everyone in the New England area, please go to the STOLEN ASTRONOMY EQUIPMENT in the Equipment (No astrophotography) section. Our Carton CST 100mm f/13 refractor which we just got from Japan earlier this year was stolen. The details are there.

 

This is the original ad: https://page.auction...ion/e1037625246

 

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 11:49 AM

well i got slightly outbid there



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Posted 03 August 2022 - 11:50 AM

hopefully someone got a good scope.



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Posted 03 August 2022 - 12:19 PM

They paid just under 400 for an unlabeled, repainted, no mount & tripod, missing drawtube, scruddy objective SYW AE-10x whatever that'll total  600~750 if it's heading stateside - you did fine. Put the money you didn't just spend in a Nice SYW AE-10X fund and call it a win! 


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:20 PM

another high school auction.  this time near dallas and it's a cave astrola.

https://tlauctions.h...ts/?q=telescope


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#63 semlin

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:21 PM

They paid just under 400 for an unlabeled, repainted, no mount & tripod, missing drawtube, scruddy objective SYW AE-10x whatever that'll total  600~750 if it's heading stateside - you did fine. Put the money you didn't just spend in a Nice SYW AE-10X fund and call it a win! 

 

i am ok with it.  

 

it was a good experience for me learning to zen.


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:31 PM

another high school auction.  this time near dallas and it's a cave astrola.

https://tlauctions.h...ts/?q=telescope

Looks like a 10" F/8.
 


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 06:49 PM

another high school auction.  this time near dallas and it's a cave astrola.

https://tlauctions.h...ts/?q=telescope

At least a 10"...maybe a 12.5"...a ring declination drive...and a LOOOONG tube (although missing the upper tube ring).  Depending on the state of the optics, this could be the "Rip Van Winkle" of sleeper good deals!

 

Sad to note that it belonged to a planetarium (sticker on the pier)..."another one bites the dust"??

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Posted 03 August 2022 - 08:05 PM

i am ok with it.  

 

it was a good experience for me learning to zen.

It's a good start, to be sure. You didn't fall prey to Bidder Madness. I watched the last 45 minutes to see e*5*2*** get bumped - figured when he fell, you were in it for sure and if you had that missing DT as a spare, it was a good deal for you.  ¥25,000~¥30,000 you could still get a 102-ish f/15-ish OTA home for under $400 and get it functional and it wasn't too much.  7*b*f*** showed up and at one point it went from ¥22,000 to ¥48,000 in just over 3 minutes. You did right.

 

It was a beautiful thing to see so much good research done on that. waytogo.gif


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Posted 03 August 2022 - 10:30 PM

Looks like a 10" F/8.
 

More likely a 12.5".  Note it's on the bigger pier with the legs with the round holes in them.



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Posted 04 August 2022 - 01:52 AM

[...]

I think this was mentioned recently:  Vixen POLARIS-90L D=90mm F=1300mm  which, with shipping, will run you over a $1K, and it really shouldn't but... but... really a nice scope and if you've spare geld and are in a rush of sorts, I'd support your decision - longo 90s are fab! and long, and awkward. IIRC, that's a set that shipped ~$30 or $40 cheaper in 2 mouths (boxes) than in one, even including the original parcel cancel fee.

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Must be your mental telepathy reception powers at work, since I (and likely other regular Zen-Market watchers here) have thought several times about posting the POLARIS-90L auction here, but did not.  In my case, I just couldn't bring myself to recommend it (or tempt anyone with it) at that price.   This is its second re-listing, and the seller has not lowered the opening bid amount after receiving zero bids ... not yet, anyway.  [...]

Not surprisingly, there were no bids on the Vixen Polaris-90L above listed at  ¥98,000.  It has now been relisted (again), this time for ¥95,000 but with a buy-out price of  ¥100,000:

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=k1056670765

 

Meanwhile near the other end of the OTA size spectrum, here is a Vixen Planet-80S (D=80mm, F=400mm, f/5) complete with tabletop tripod and carrying case, still waiting for an initial opening bid of ¥9,000 (US $70), plus a required 10% Value Added Tax, and let's not forget shipping ... but fortunately its size and weight in this case are small ....

 

https://zenmarket.jp...ode=j1059310615

 

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Posted 04 August 2022 - 05:59 AM

More likely a 12.5".  Note it's on the bigger pier with the legs with the round holes in them.

Could be a 12.5". Hard to scale up the tube with no finder to see. Way too big for a 1.5" shaft mount and not anything i could lift. It's not the weight that is so bad but the OD of the tube makes it hard to grab and lift up to line up them ring studs.


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Posted 04 August 2022 - 08:50 AM

Stand the OTA up beside the mount. You figure out where it goes.

Rotate the saddle to the tube. No weights, still loppsy. 

Bolt saddle to tube.  Tubular. 

 

I looked at that ad and figured it's a 1.5" shaft. Pier pipe is large, OTA is large, mount looked small. I might ask them for numbers. 


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Posted 04 August 2022 - 12:25 PM

The ten inch is too big for the 1.5” mount. The 12.5” is absurd for anything but visual on a calm night. 


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Posted 04 August 2022 - 05:14 PM

Celestron SP-C8 - $650 in Lexington, KY

https://www.facebook...390637136543524

 

Dynascope RV6 - $100 in Maineville, OH

https://www.facebook...573209930952599

 

Shrine Manon (60/700 APL) - $60 in Chicago, IL

https://www.facebook...875090952792920


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Posted 04 August 2022 - 06:02 PM

Stand the OTA up beside the mount. You figure out where it goes.

Rotate the saddle to the tube. No weights, still loppsy. 

Bolt saddle to tube.  Tubular. 

 

I looked at that ad and figured it's a 1.5" shaft. Pier pipe is large, OTA is large, mount looked small. I might ask them for numbers. 

Done that trick and got tired of it fast.



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Posted 04 August 2022 - 06:09 PM

NOS still wrapped in plastic Jason 313, maybe a tad over priced:

 

https://dayton.craig...7516912737.html


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Posted 04 August 2022 - 06:13 PM

NOS still wrapped in plastic Jason 313, maybe a tad over priced:

 

https://dayton.craig...7516912737.html

Way over-priced!


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